Off Topic Climate Change

They do it with a lot of topics. They arrogantly assume others are ignorant and stupid, without realising how they're usually just flagging up their own limitations.

 

that's because they have come to conclusions first, then look for evidence.

It's meant to work the other way round.

 

Let me add my bit good man

Co2 gas has been used in welding for many years, it was always called Co2 wire welding that later went to MIG welding. Co2 is the shielding gas that protects the weld from incoming Oxygen, Nitrogen and Hydrogen that is in the atmosphere. It can cut gases coming in and out through it's solid mass. Co2 is a very cold gas and often gets called dry ice, usually with temps below -78 degrees c..

Co2 I believe can, barrier warm air going out and cool air coming in the stratos which may be adding to our crazy climate..

Just my opinion of course..

 

Frontiers of freedom is a good example of this.

I'm willing to bet you don't even know which of your graphs came from such a reputable source.

 

That is an entirely fair and balanced position and I don't disagree.

CO2 has an effect, everything in a system affects the system.

What we dont have, is any actual explicit evidence at all that CO2 is controlling global temperatures and ZERO evidence at all it is making weather bad, or droughts worse.

ALL of the studies in attribution, that blame this or that weather event on CO2, or a drought or heatwave, ALL of them ASSUME, AGW is valid, assume.. and I learned long ago that to assume makes an ass out of u and me

You'll note, no one can say how much warming is human emissions of CO2 (3% to 5% of total yearly emissions) and how much is natural.

 

If you'd rather papers than graphs, that you'll actually discuss the merits of, I am happy to do that but only if you are going to be arsed in actually dealing with these papers, the methods, the omissions, identifying what is assumptions.

I did read your cited paper after all, and conclude that it offers nothing like strong evidence for anything nor does it claim to even have strong evidence

 

I'm going to watch and laugh

 

Funded by one of the biggest fossil fuel corporations on the planet.

Their evidence will be impartial then

 

and that attitude is why you will never be able to read and understand a paper in paleo, or understand how global temperature anomaly time series are created, or how the models were built and how they are run, what the parameterisations are, how they are configured per model.

On top of that, the history of the field, and the basis for all of the doom, the bad science, that has been swept under the rug.

New York is meant to be almost submerged in 2020, sea level at the battery in New York is dropping, and has plateaued for years.
Venice is meant to be all but gone now, even tho its actually sinking,it's still there

Maldives meant to be gone

50 million climate refugees were meant to be arriving by 2010

NONE of the doom claimed in 1988 by the climate doomers came to pass, it was all junk science and lies
Furthermore, HADCRUT 4 temp is running at James Hansen's scenario C, no emissions increases.

Polar bears are meant to be suffering
Arctic meant to be ice free already

Such ****e, all of it wrong

if your predictions are WRONG, your theory is WRONG

ALL ****ing doom has been pushed to 2100 now, because they learned not to make short term predictions because they get found out

 

Shhhhh!!!!

 

I agree with that, the science has never been proven, this was a ball hammer that was hit on us not so long ago by a few excited scientists. Probably the same people that now say as soon as you feel better then ditch the antibiotics and don't finish the course after many years of the same..

Too many people wanting to fix things that are not broken..

The bigger picture and answer to global warming is out there, I'd start with solar flares/radiation before I got to the aliens..

 

Climate funding per year 2 trillion
Total oil profits per year, 100 billion approx.

Thats 200 years of total oil profits in one year of climate money, yeah, the money is in the big oil conspiracy. Sure

and also, the biggest intellectual cop out ever, muh big oil conspiracy

Which is funny given if you go to BP or Shell's websites, you can read them toting the climate line you ****tard

What made you speak when you know nothing about this? lol

 

read the climategate emails. data fraud, what they did actually fits the definition of scientific malfeasance
The IPPC decided AGW was a thing before one jot of science was done, fact
Read what the UNIPCC bureaucrats say, here's a primer

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Socialists, mate, those who want you to work so others can have free **** and sit on their arses, and those who get welfare will bemoan not getting more than they get, instead of getting a job

They openly state that they are doing this to redistribute wealth.

 

Very True..

 

Funded by Exxon Mobil actually. You don't think they have a vested interest in promoting fossil fuels ?

You've got your head buried in the sand mate.

 

You don't know what you are talking about

Do you know how much the renewable market is worth to Exxon? trillions over a decade or two. about 400 times what they make off of oil
Do you know anything about the junk that is renewable? 75% of renewable used in the world, is burning ****, garbage and wood
ExxonMobil agrees to join oil and gas climate change alliance
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...il-gas-climate-change-alliance-global-warming

 

So why are they investing in renewables if there's no climate change ?

Your argument is ****ed whatever way you want to spin it

 

Do you know that Qatari oil sheiks own some of the wind farms in Britain? no?

Also
https://cleantechnica.com/2017/03/18/qatar-will-begin-construction-200-megawatt-solar-project-year/
Qatar Will Begin Construction On 200 Megawatt Solar Project This Year


The big oils are fixed to make a killing from the renewable scam

Wind mills are ancient tech and we are using them to create energy now? WTF

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That is our answer?

 

read what you just said...

I said, energy corps want the renewable money as it is many times what they make from oil
You say "So why are they investing in renewables if there's no climate change"

I never thought you were that stupid.. till now.

also, have you dropped the big oil conspiracy so fast? strange, you dropped it in a matter of two posts