Off Topic Climate change/ pollution

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Yes, "we" as in humanity!
(And we need to cut down on eating meat and drinking milk).
It's a no-brainer ... but won't happen, too many vested interests ... and cnuts.

Sir Kneelalot, promises to reduce our 1% of emissions by 81% by 2035. So we will bugger ourselves up without making any difference. The USA, India, China weren’t at COP. Neither were Germany or France. Though the Taliban were. Maybe he could have had a chat about homophobia and women’s rights with them?
 
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A dig unearthed a Roman Roundhouse beneath Bamburgh Castle a couple of years ago.

Bamburgh is also where a storm about 25 years ago unearthed an Anglo-Saxon burial ground beneath the beach. The bodies were all examined, analysed and reinterred in the crypt of Bamburgh Church. The amount of information they were able to extract was astonishing. Bamburgh was the seat of the Kings of Northumberland at the time and was incredibly cosmopolitan. People travelled from all parts of the known world to work and live there.

It's also were Grace Darling is buried.


Lovely place. Well worth a visit if you're up this way.
It is. I do like that whole coastline tbh. Largely unspoilt and some fascinating places
 
Northumberland is amazing
Spoilt for choice with the beaches.
Alnmouth is my favourite, but you can’t go wrong whichever you go to
Lindisfarne on a quiet day is really something to experience too. The peace and quiet and feeling of isolation (insert joke about the MKM at full time here). Different when there's hoardes of other people there mind you
 
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Yes because cutting down on the 1% of global emissions that the UK is responsible for will do a lot of good while the likes of China and India carry on regardless (ooh...er...missus)

PS - should this stuff be moved to Climate thread or something as opposed to clogging up a MTD?

The UK being responsible for 1% is complete nonsense, the reasons China's emissions are so high, is because of all the goods they produce for us. There's up to 100 long haul jumbo jets flights per day, to Europe and the US, from just two Chinese websites. 22% of all China's emissions are a direct consequence of our imports and we're in a position to stop that if we want.
 
The UK being responsible for 1% is complete nonsense, the reasons China's emissions are so high, is because of all the goods they produce for us. There's up to 100 long haul jumbo jets flights per day, to Europe and the US, from just two Chinese websites. 22% of all China's emissions are a direct consequence of our imports and we're in a position to stop that if we want.

Thanks, but we don't want to
 
I'm aware of that. Stop people in the street and ask them about child labour, or people earning a dollar a day and they say it's a disgrace, then they walk round the corner into Primark and say 'wow a blouse for £9, that's brilliant, I'm having that'.
I’ve only ever said that once!! No matter what the rumours say
 
The UK being responsible for 1% is complete nonsense, the reasons China's emissions are so high, is because of all the goods they produce for us. There's up to 100 long haul jumbo jets flights per day, to Europe and the US, from just two Chinese websites. 22% of all China's emissions are a direct consequence of our imports and we're in a position to stop that if we want.
Trump might (to a degree), our clowns won't ... they've done & continue doing the reverse. And that's where the complete nonsense really lies. And most consumers don't give a ****. It's all utter madness & bollox.
But you knew all of that.
 
I'm aware of that. Stop people in the street and ask them about child labour, or people earning a dollar a day and they say it's a disgrace, then they walk round the corner into Primark and say 'wow a blouse for £9, that's brilliant, I'm having that'.

A similar argument applies to the resources needed for the so called 'green' technology.

Importing from places like China rather than home production is a bit more complex and nuanced than some would like to claim, especially if we still want the products.

The bigger issue is that the measures being pushed will not achieve their stated aims anyway, but they will drag the economy and standard of living down and affect energy and food security.
 
I'm aware of that. Stop people in the street and ask them about child labour, or people earning a dollar a day and they say it's a disgrace, then they walk round the corner into Primark and say 'wow a blouse for £9, that's brilliant, I'm having that'.

If people are living on a tight budget you can understand them doing that. That's just a practical reality for a lot of people