Off Topic Climate change/ pollution

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if we clean up our act etc here in the UK. What actual effect is it going to have on climate change? If we hit net zero by the timeframe targets we have said. Can anybody say what actual effect it's going to have, how much it will bring temps down or even stop them rising etc...?

We all need to be less wasteful in life full stop and take more care over things in general. But the whole "climate catastrophe" as the media and just stop oil tools call it is just an excuse to milk more money from people. If sea levels are going to raise that much for example then why are banks and financial institutions giving out 25/30yr mortgages etc on beach front properties or having wordings in those mortgages re losing your investment/property to rising sea levels?

Not saying there is or isn't climate change happening, just that words and actual actions in some cases don't match

I remember in the late 1990s buying a place on Vicky dock & I remember the “experts” telling me that it would be under water within 20 years…..how’s it doing now? How wet is it there, haven’t been there in a while. All submerged I expect……
 
I remember in the late 1990s buying a place on Vicky dock & I remember the “experts” telling me that it would be under water within 20 years…..how’s it doing now? How wet is it there, haven’t been there in a while. All submerged I expect……
God I nicked some stuff from there when I was working on it
I only did it cos I thought it would be underwater <whistle>
 
I keep trying to resist joining this, but stopping any new licenses wouldn't actually change much as far as emissions go, as the increase in energy use required for the other initiatives proposed for Net Zero would mean we'd need to import it from somewhere else that is liable to have less environmental controls, at potentially a higher cost, which would compound the financial and environmental hit.

It's not an option until we have a programme in place to provide a credible alternative, and we're a long way off that.
It's ludicrous to assume that we won't come up with a better alternative in the next 50 years though.
 
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In which case, the markets would see a rush for the cheap energy and make fossil fuels redundant without the additional cost to the economy, environment, lifespan and health.
Surely the emergence of AI marks the granting of new licenses a total folly? We could have the answers in a much shorter timescale.
 
I remember in the late 1990s buying a place on Vicky dock & I remember the “experts” telling me that it would be under water within 20 years…..how’s it doing now? How wet is it there, haven’t been there in a while. All submerged I expect……

Are you ready for the shock of a lifetime...... It's still perfectly fine and people aren't sharing their living rooms with fish and seals just yet.
 
Surely the emergence of AI marks the granting of new licenses a total folly? We could have the answers in a much shorter timescale.

And until we do have the answers, we certainly would cause environmental, economic and lifespan harm if we don't keep the option open.

A lot of so called AI is simply faster processing of predetermined algorithms.
 
And until we do have the answers, we certainly would cause environmental, economic and lifespan harm if we don't keep the option open.

A lot of so called AI is simply faster processing of predetermined algorithms.

Well the incentive for new production is certainly there. The government will give oil companies back 91p for every pound they spend setting up a new rig. So a billion dollar investment instantly costs a fraction of the amount. Like the oil companies wouldn't invest in it anyway... :emoticon-0119-puke:
 
Well the incentive for new production is certainly there. The government will give oil companies back 91p for every pound they spend setting up a new rig. So a billion dollar investment instantly costs a fraction of the amount. Like the oil companies wouldn't invest in it anyway... :emoticon-0119-puke:

I think you've just done a bullshit, mate.
 
Yes. This is a journalist copy of a report written by a company as an advert to get investment in, to bid on licenses for the Pilot field.

'could be', 'perhaps' and 'maybe' carry the report and are reliant on a government white paper that has now been adjusted and changed.

The UK government has never instantly paid back 91% of investment in a new rig.
I stand corrected and I'm pleased to hear it. Any tax relief for that industry is too much though.
 
And until we do have the answers, we certainly would cause environmental, economic and lifespan harm if we don't keep the option open.

A lot of so called AI is simply faster processing of predetermined algorithms.
This fella may have something to say about one area of AI !

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Ignore the doom-mongers, says new UN climate change chief

Doom-mongers do more harm than good, the United Nations’ new climate change chief has said.

Prof Jim Skea, the newly elected head of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), warned that apocalyptic messaging merely “paralyses” the public and fails to motivate them to protect the planet.

The Scottish physicist also said that the world warming 1.5C above pre-industrial levels, to which the 2015 Paris Agreement pledged to limit global temperature rises, was “not an existential threat to humanity”.

“Every action we take to mitigate climate change helps. Climate protection is always cheaper and protects people from the dramatic consequences of global warming. This is all the more true if we have exceeded the Paris climate target.

“The world won’t end if it gets more than 1.5 degrees warmer. However, it will be a more dangerous world. Countries will struggle with many problems, there will be social tensions.

“And yet this is not an existential threat to humanity. Even with 1.5 degrees of warming, we will not die out.”

“Man has his future in his own hands – we can all make decisions that make our world safer and better,” Prof Skea added.

Ignore the doom-mongers, says new UN climate change chief (msn.com)
 
Ignore the doom-mongers, says new UN climate change chief

Doom-mongers do more harm than good, the United Nations’ new climate change chief has said.

Prof Jim Skea, the newly elected head of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), warned that apocalyptic messaging merely “paralyses” the public and fails to motivate them to protect the planet.

The Scottish physicist also said that the world warming 1.5C above pre-industrial levels, to which the 2015 Paris Agreement pledged to limit global temperature rises, was “not an existential threat to humanity”.

“Every action we take to mitigate climate change helps. Climate protection is always cheaper and protects people from the dramatic consequences of global warming. This is all the more true if we have exceeded the Paris climate target.

“The world won’t end if it gets more than 1.5 degrees warmer. However, it will be a more dangerous world. Countries will struggle with many problems, there will be social tensions.

“And yet this is not an existential threat to humanity. Even with 1.5 degrees of warming, we will not die out.”

“Man has his future in his own hands – we can all make decisions that make our world safer and better,” Prof Skea added.

Ignore the doom-mongers, says new UN climate change chief (msn.com)
Good example of nudge theory and choice architecture being used well IMO.

Tell people the world will end and most will give up, and many will blame others.

Tell people they will still be alive, but it will be quite **** if they don’t do something and more are liable to give a **** and do something.

Interesting at that level, on that topic, they don’t have an agreed communication strategy.