Aligning politics to religion- not for me thanks.
I find it sad that reform look to America in this day and age as inspiration
I find it sad that reform look to America in this day and age as inspiration
Off Topic Climate Change & Nature thread
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Modern warfare is accelerating climate change substantially. Not just the bombing of oil supplies, but the manufacture of the bombs, the number of flights and the energy required for the rebuilding required when eventually peace breaks ahrt.
True, but not as much as world population growth, or man’s desire to innovate, discover and invent.
Although the latter three are actually the best chance we have of finding truly ‘green’ solutions to our climate change issues. Asking people to use less or to stop using existing inventions will never, ever work as we are hard-wired to strive to improve.
Make no mistake, there is a huge amount of work going in to fighting climate change. If only it had started earlier..........
Completely agree. But it won’t work if world population continues to grow as it is and also if we don’t replace existing polluting hardware and processes with better (at the point of use) hardware and processes.
Heat pumps verses gas boilers is the prime example of the latter point. Heat pumps don’t work as well as gas boilers but are a lot more expensive to install, maintain and replace. So relatively very few people want them.
We're getting a new gas boiler fitted on Thursday. They now burn 20% nitrogen, which may increase to 40%. You can also get one which combines gas and the heat pump, but thecost is prohibitive. There's no real cash incentive to look after our environment. For example, at the supermarket evryone takes there own shopping bag because you have to pay for carrier bags, but at smaller shops, and the local greengrocer, they give carrier bags away willy-nilly, and hardly anyone brings their own shopping bags.
Interesting. So does it take Nitrogen from the air somehow, or does it need a separate pure supply which you have to pay for ?
Nitrogen doesn't support combustion. It will make combustion less efficient, but will still go through the meter, meaning you would be paying more for less.
I suspect you mean hydrogen, but as that is less energy dense than natural gas, you will still be paying more for less.
OI OI, I visit here to get away from gits like you, offski.
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Shame, as Nitrogen is so abundant whereas Hydrogen isn’t and so will cost lots of money.
Goes back to my original point that unless the ‘green’ solution works as well as, or better than, the fossil fuel alternative and is cheaper than or as cheap as, the fossil fuel alternative then it isn’t an answer. Alas this sounds like just another money making exercise on the back of the climate ‘emergency’.
Hydrogen in the gas supply is being pushed by the gas network as a way of keeping themselves in operation in the face of the push to electricity. It needs to be burned in quite tight stoichiometric ratios to keep it 'cleaner'. They're having problems doing that in a domestic setting. Most of the boilers claiming to be able to burn it tend to be misleading, as they generally need adapting to do that. {edit} They seem to be a long way off adding it to the whole network in bigger percentages.
It also risks bumping up emissions depending which technique they use to produce it, and could impact on the existing uses.
Hydrogen could be an option for ships, trains and lorries, providing they can sort the network supply. It could actually be a way of utilising wind and power if ever there was a surplus, as rather than paying to turn them off as they do now, they could generate hydrogen for pretty much 'free' and locally, so reducing transport and storage issues.
Ultimately, they nearly all tend to be expensive tools that don't actually fix the problem they claim is the issue.
As Cnut demonstrated, nature will do what nature does, and we'd be as well focusing on adaptation and resilience of lifestyles for the longer term.
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Do come back and join our climate crisis thread at any time
I require a dose of Ubes's cheery optimism after reading the latest analysis of the changing climate.
I like that Crowded House song. Always find it quite cheery;
"Julius Caesar and the Roman Empire, couldn't conquer the blue sky...
Everywhere you go, you always take the weather with you, everywhere you go, you always take the weather..."
"Julius Caesar and the Roman Empire, couldn't conquer the blue sky...
Everywhere you go, you always take the weather with you, everywhere you go, you always take the weather..."
To what analysis do you refer ?
In the meantime will this cheer you up a bit ?……
Heat pumps for all new homes and plug-in solar in green tech drive
Solar panels that can be plugged in at home could be available to buy in supermarkets in the coming months.
www.bbc.co.uk
Edit: just don’t look too deeply into the cost of replacing a heat pump after a couple of years or the environmental costs associated with manufacturing and trying to dispose of used solar panels. Best not to know.
Bythe World Meteorological Organisation. And just to add to the heat this is an El Nino year, it's on the BBC website Climate section, but I'm such a useless techy I can't do links without help.
Click on the link, then the three dots at the top left of the article, press copy link then come back here. Above your keyboard, on a mobile, you should see the link on the clipboard,just click it and it should appear on here.
TwoWrights, Luddite in chief, if I can do it...
What is climate change? A really simple guide
Human activities are causing the world to heat up, posing serious threats to people and nature.
www.bbc.co.uk
Ffs, I thought we had moved on from fighting on here.OI OI, I visit here to get away from gits like you, offski.
The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
Now we have got two on here that do not even support Charlton
At least our resident Hull supporter lives a bit closer to the Valley than you !Ffs, I thought we had moved on from fighting on here.
Now we have got two on here that do not even support Charlton