Classless Mourinho

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littleDinosaurLuke said:
The point DL is that first time round he had a spine of players who were winners - all of whom would be mentioned when discussing the best PL of the last 10 years and the best teams. Now the players who remain are older and less influential. There is no doubt Chelsea have a lot of talented players, but are they winners? And how will Mourinho handle it if they perform like last season when results like 8-0 v Villa and impressive wins at Stoke, Everton etc were interspersed with a 3-1 defeat at West Ham, a home defeat to QPR, sloppy defending for draws v Reading and Southampton. Will he still be cocky and sniggering? It might not be so smooth a ride this time.
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Cech, Lampard, Terry and Drogba weren't winners either. Mourinho seems to do better managing that type of player than he does with dressing rooms that have hugely bolstered CV's. Someone like Ancelotti is the complete opposite. I understand what you mean but the dropped points in the fixtures were as much down to Benitez's incompetence as it was concentration.
 
Spurm said:
Had anyone else notice that DL had been absent for a while then suddenly his club does something that he perceives as getting one over on us and suddenly he's on EVERY thread being as classless as his manager and club. I'm sure he thinks he's so clever for fooling us, why is he still allowed here? He does a good act at sensible chat sometimes but deep down he's a massive WUM

Similar to the other fans, just here to wum when they've got something to crow about but nothing to discuss at any other time. It's tiresome
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I wish people would stop using the term "WUM" upon throwing toys out the pram. I haven't wound up or attenpted to wind up anyone, I've tried to present an alternative point of view. Others like YV have disagreed without getting personal or throwing around anything accusatory.

I've been very busy lately, wasnt on the forum at all last weekend or throughout much of this week as Bucks and Varier will tell you. Not here to crow about anything.
 
Jose's like a flea on a dog.Loves to irritate to the point of drawing blood for the local rags!
 
CPofL KTBFFH said:
He made them winners lol. They weren't winners when he arrived.
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They showed the capacity to be winners - strength of character, performing consistently over a long period, never say die etc. Mourinho was fortunate to have them as the backbone of his team when he came. The jury is out on whether he has the same calibre of player now for all the slick passing etc. You were not challenging last season despite a great start and Mata's contribution. Mourinho has shown that his demeanour can change when he's not top dog, is under pressure and is not getting his way. There a question marks over what this Chelsea team can achieve in the PL - which is always the number one priority.
 
This will be an unpopular point of view but imho chelsea have done nothing wrong. Willian was only using us to smoke out a bid from a CL club.
He got what he wanted and chelsea got what they wanted and we avoided getting a player that would have gone elsewhere at a drop of a hat once a richer or bigger club came in for him.
If mata stays he will spend a lot of time on the bench .... so **** him <laugh>
If mata goes the chelsea fans will be gutted ... so **** them <laugh>
If he really is a mercenary then roman will have another expensive misfit .... so **** him<laugh>

So ... in short .... **** em all <laugh>
 
Out of all the expensive signings this summer, Willian seems the most like the next Veron-transfer. Talented, but I don't think he'll fit in the premier league.
 
remembercolinlee said:
This will be an unpopular point of view but imho chelsea have done nothing wrong. Willian was only using us to smoke out a bid from a CL club.
He got what he wanted and chelsea got what they wanted and we avoided getting a player that would have gone elsewhere at a drop of a hat once a richer or bigger club came in for him.
If mata stays he will spend a lot of time on the bench .... so **** him <laugh>
If mata goes the chelsea fans will be gutted ... so **** them <laugh>
If he really is a mercenary then roman will have another expensive misfit .... so **** him<laugh>

So ... in short .... **** em all <laugh>
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Mata is still a huge player for us but he'll obviously play less and needs to if we're to get the best out of him. Mata, Oscar and Hazard all played a ridiculous amount of games last season and when all three didn't play, we looked like a shark without teeth. PNP and I discussed our overreliance on Mata last year at arms length and hopefully the likes of De Bruyne and Willian will give us more options going forward.

Willian situation is tricky because he'd have walked into Spurs first team and probably made them favourites for 4th, on the other hand he'll play less for Chelsea but still have the platform of CL to showcase his talent ahead of the World Cup. Any player that performs magnificently in the Champions League and wins it isn't going to get overlooked for their national side. Whoever he joined, Willian needs to perform, I think he's a great player on a European stage but as some have already said, the Premier League is different and he'll also need to perform consistently on that stage as well if he wants a Brazilian call up.
 
remembercolinlee said:
This will be an unpopular point of view but imho chelsea have done nothing wrong. Willian was only using us to smoke out a bid from a CL club.
He got what he wanted and chelsea got what they wanted and we avoided getting a player that would have gone elsewhere at a drop of a hat once a richer or bigger club came in for him.
If mata stays he will spend a lot of time on the bench .... so **** him <laugh>
If mata goes the chelsea fans will be gutted ... so **** them <laugh>
If he really is a mercenary then roman will have another expensive misfit .... so **** him<laugh>

So ... in short .... **** em all <laugh>
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**** 'em all, **** 'em all, Chelsea, Anzhi, Liverpool...
 
What has Mourinho exactly done wrong? What he said in that press conference is true, the best way to conduct transfers is to keep them private, that way if anything goes wrong, no one will know. And the "We have to do a medical" thing wasnt a shot at Spurs, it was just a joke with the journalists.
 
RonnieCFC said:
But the thing is you can't. I tell you, when City and us get it together we will be head and shoulders ahead of you and the Spuds. <ok>
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<doh>
You come on our board and disrespect us by using that juvenile term of abuse.

And people wonder why they get banned!
 
tjblonks said:
What has Mourinho exactly done wrong? What he said in that press conference is true, the best way to conduct transfers is to keep them private, that way if anything goes wrong, no one will know. And the "We have to do a medical" thing wasnt a shot at Spurs, it was just a joke with the journalists.
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Which club was he at for the last three years? Was it one that conducts their transfer business and player medicals in public?
 
tjblonks said:
What has Mourinho exactly done wrong? What he said in that press conference is true, the best way to conduct transfers is to keep them private, that way if anything goes wrong, no one will know. And the "We have to do a medical" thing wasnt a shot at Spurs, it was just a joke with the journalists.
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I think it's the smirk and the fact that he obviously found it funny that his mafia boss, Mad Dog, had blown £32m on buying a player he didn't need, merely as a cynical ploy to stop us gaining on him.

Personally, I don't think we need Willian, and certainly for the £30m we were offering for him there are better options.
 
tjblonks said:
What has Mourinho exactly done wrong? What he said in that press conference is true, the best way to conduct transfers is to keep them private, that way if anything goes wrong, no one will know. And the "We have to do a medical" thing wasnt a shot at Spurs, it was just a joke with the journalists.
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Is that a serious question? I ****ing despair I really do
 
humanbeingincroydon said:
Which club was he at for the last three years? Was it one that conducts their transfer business and player medicals in public?
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He never said he conducted his business like that, just thats how it should be done. Plus, do Madrid really need to be worried about competition from other clubs for a player? they are the cream of the crop.
 
Hoddle Is A God said:
I think it's the smirk and the fact that he obviously found it funny that his mafia boss, Mad Dog, had blown £32m on buying a player he didn't need, merely as a cynical ploy to stop us gaining on him.

Personally, I don't think we need Willian, and certainly for the £30m we were offering for him there are better options.
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tjblonks said:
He never said he conducted his business like that, just thats how it should be done. Plus, do Madrid really need to be worried about competition from other clubs for a player? they are the cream of the crop.
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Barca and Bayern beg to differ on that last part, whilst the Milan clubs and possibly Juve would probably argue (but nowhere near as loudly as they would have fifteen years ago)

Mourinho says that's how transfers should be done, yet in reality his career is filled with occasions where Marca tell the world who they want to sign rather than make an enquiry about the availability of a player, or the club's chief executive bumps into another team's player in a hotel.
 
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