Did he acquire a rug or summat ?You do realise there are a lot of bald headed Mike Phelan lookalikes around don't you?
Did he acquire a rug or summat ?You do realise there are a lot of bald headed Mike Phelan lookalikes around don't you?
Yes, stats are only one part. On the football show on saturday night Martin Allen was saying that they copy the show highlights and put them in a file for each club and review them. I'd just been thinking how silly it is to go by the highlights where you usually see somebody impressively scoring a goal but you rarely see any of the bad play which could make up 90% or more of a players contribution.

I'd like to see Abel stay, especially if we get Gray and Maloney.
What's it called: "Faking football knowledge"?Bloody hell,Peter, have you been reading my book?![]()
Its not the point of the wages, its the actual fee teams are paying. Its a joke. We have an ex international croatian and a Uruguayan that should be a cut above Gray. I'd rather keep these boys then pay over the odds for someone.
He's an English footballer and prices are higher. Hernandez may be a Uruguayan international - but he's ****ing useless in the English leagues. Jelavić has been a huge disappointment so far, he's not demonstrated the same desire he did in the PL. Gray whilst expensive has shown he has the hunger to succeed. His Wiki page is an interesting read, his main motivation is playing football and to provide for his family. He seems very family centric.
Don't be a **** Bob, you'll have all those ****ers crying on the GPG forum.His 'fam' is probably 30 odd g stars in Wolverhampton. In providing for his family, it probably means paying for drug mules, buying weapons, covering the rent and the electricity bill for the house where they grow their marijuana, etc.
If he could force his way into the starting eleven.By reading the Livermore article, looks like we could have him back sooner rather than later. He'd be one hell of a player at this level
What he does in his private life, this young man was over 18 like wasn't he? Say he wasJames Wilson had lunch with Mke Phelan today in a pub nr Bramhall, Cheshire. There was another young man with them who I didn't recognize. My first transfer scoop!!
By reading the Livermore article, looks like we could have him back sooner rather than later. He'd be one hell of a player at this level
If Gray is the striker Bruce wants, pay them what they want.
Gray 9m
Odubajo 3.5m
Clucas 1.5m
14m
Ince 5m
Chester 8m
Brady 7m
N'doye 2m
22m
we're still quids in, and thats before selling hernandez and jelavic..
as many have said.. just pay the money or move onto the next target. we're probably going to pay up eventually, so why not get it over with?
Then let's go back to them with a revised bonus scheme for goals, points and promotionThey don't want to play for us in the Championship nor with the cut in wages they took. You can't look at transfer fees in isolation. Gray will be happy with a lot less than the players you talk about.
Prices are only higher as idiotic football managers demand their chairman pay it. We should not be touching Gray for £4m never mind £7m. And by the way, I wrote that bit about Gray on his wiki page. Actually I didn't, but you get my drift!He's an English footballer and prices are higher. Hernandez may be a Uruguayan international - but he's ****ing useless in the English leagues. Jelavić has been a huge disappointment so far, he's not demonstrated the same desire he did in the PL. Gray whilst expensive has shown he has the hunger to succeed. His Wiki page is an interesting read, his main motivation is playing football and to provide for his family. He seems very family centric.
In the first year yes, but not in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th. Got to stop thinking short term.
Why are you even thinking about 80k per week wages anyway?
Prices are only higher as idiotic football managers demand their chairman pay it. We should not be touching Gray for £4m never mind £7m. And by the way, I wrote that bit about Gray on his wiki page. Actually I didn't, but you get my drift!
No, they are higher because the English league and style of play are very different. For every foreign footballer (striker to narrow the view) that's a success - there's 4 maybe 5 that aren't. Look at our record Ghilas/Proschwitz/Hernandez/Sagbo all struggled with goals.
It would be a very bizarre section to edit on Wiki, as generally people edit the same kind of details (current club etc
All strikers struggle, regardless of whether they are British or not. Other than the really amazing strikers like Shearer, Wright, Owen, Fowler and dare I say it Rhodes there are very few who knock them in season after season. If I was a chairman who owned a club and a striker scored 20 goals I'd sell him like a shot and look for the next one. Strikers rarely score +20 goals on back to back seasons.
So my stance on Gray stands. At £4m get him, but at £7m don't touch, especially with add ons. He might score 20 for Brentford, but we should be looking at the lad they are replacing him with. Now that would be a story.