City transfer thread

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Yes, stats are only one part. On the football show on saturday night Martin Allen was saying that they copy the show highlights and put them in a file for each club and review them. I'd just been thinking how silly it is to go by the highlights where you usually see somebody impressively scoring a goal but you rarely see any of the bad play which could make up 90% or more of a players contribution.

Bloody hell,Peter, have you been reading my book? <cheers>
 
Its not the point of the wages, its the actual fee teams are paying. Its a joke. We have an ex international croatian and a Uruguayan that should be a cut above Gray. I'd rather keep these boys then pay over the odds for someone.

He's an English footballer and prices are higher. Hernandez may be a Uruguayan international - but he's ****ing useless in the English leagues. Jelavić has been a huge disappointment so far, he's not demonstrated the same desire he did in the PL. Gray whilst expensive has shown he has the hunger to succeed. His Wiki page is an interesting read, his main motivation is playing football and to provide for his family. He seems very family centric.
 
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He's an English footballer and prices are higher. Hernandez may be a Uruguayan international - but he's ****ing useless in the English leagues. Jelavić has been a huge disappointment so far, he's not demonstrated the same desire he did in the PL. Gray whilst expensive has shown he has the hunger to succeed. His Wiki page is an interesting read, his main motivation is playing football and to provide for his family. He seems very family centric.

His 'fam' is probably 30 odd g stars in Wolverhampton. In providing for his family, it probably means paying for drug mules, buying weapons, covering the rent and the electricity bill for the house where they grow their marijuana, etc.
 
His 'fam' is probably 30 odd g stars in Wolverhampton. In providing for his family, it probably means paying for drug mules, buying weapons, covering the rent and the electricity bill for the house where they grow their marijuana, etc.
Don't be a **** Bob, you'll have all those ****ers crying on the GPG forum.
 
By reading the Livermore article, looks like we could have him back sooner rather than later. He'd be one hell of a player at this level
 
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If Gray is the striker Bruce wants, pay them what they want.

Gray 9m
Odubajo 3.5m
Clucas 1.5m

14m

Ince 5m
Chester 8m
Brady 7m
N'doye 2m

22m

we're still quids in, and thats before selling hernandez and jelavic..

as many have said.. just pay the money or move onto the next target. we're probably going to pay up eventually, so why not get it over with?


So glad you have no control over the club. Why would you just pay them what they want? idiotic comment to be honest
 
They don't want to play for us in the Championship nor with the cut in wages they took. You can't look at transfer fees in isolation. Gray will be happy with a lot less than the players you talk about.
Then let's go back to them with a revised bonus scheme for goals, points and promotion
 
He's an English footballer and prices are higher. Hernandez may be a Uruguayan international - but he's ****ing useless in the English leagues. Jelavić has been a huge disappointment so far, he's not demonstrated the same desire he did in the PL. Gray whilst expensive has shown he has the hunger to succeed. His Wiki page is an interesting read, his main motivation is playing football and to provide for his family. He seems very family centric.
Prices are only higher as idiotic football managers demand their chairman pay it. We should not be touching Gray for £4m never mind £7m. And by the way, I wrote that bit about Gray on his wiki page. Actually I didn't, but you get my drift!
 
Just by the way on the wages v transfer fee argument, people realise that 20k extra a week is only another 1m paid on a player, yes? So if we could sign a striker for, say, 5 million instead of 9 million, we could offer them an extra 80k a week to convince them to come here, and still only be paying the same outlay as the 9m striker.
 
In the first year yes, but not in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th. Got to stop thinking short term.

Why are you even thinking about 80k per week wages anyway?
 
In the first year yes, but not in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th. Got to stop thinking short term.

Why are you even thinking about 80k per week wages anyway?

Good point. So over a standard 3 year contract, taking on a player who expects 20k more in wages would cost you 3m.

I was using it as an extreme example of the amount of wages per year you can offer more to a player for a lower transfer fee.

People are making out that wanting higher wages far out-weighs 2 or 3m in transfer fees which isn't necessarily true.

We'd presumably be offering Gray, what, 15/20k a week?
 
Prices are only higher as idiotic football managers demand their chairman pay it. We should not be touching Gray for £4m never mind £7m. And by the way, I wrote that bit about Gray on his wiki page. Actually I didn't, but you get my drift!

No, they are higher because the English league and style of play are very different. For every foreign footballer (striker to narrow the view) that's a success - there's 4 maybe 5 that aren't. Look at our record Ghilas/Proschwitz/Hernandez/Sagbo all struggled with goals.

It would be a very bizarre section to edit on Wiki, as generally people edit the same kind of details (current club etc
 
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No, they are higher because the English league and style of play are very different. For every foreign footballer (striker to narrow the view) that's a success - there's 4 maybe 5 that aren't. Look at our record Ghilas/Proschwitz/Hernandez/Sagbo all struggled with goals.

It would be a very bizarre section to edit on Wiki, as generally people edit the same kind of details (current club etc

All strikers struggle, regardless of whether they are British or not. Other than the really amazing strikers like Shearer, Wright, Owen, Fowler and dare I say it Rhodes there are very few who knock them in season after season. If I was a chairman who owned a club and a striker scored 20 goals I'd sell him like a shot and look for the next one. Strikers rarely score +20 goals on back to back seasons.

So my stance on Gray stands. At £4m get him, but at £7m don't touch, especially with add ons. He might score 20 for Brentford, but we should be looking at the lad they are replacing him with. Now that would be a story.
 
All strikers struggle, regardless of whether they are British or not. Other than the really amazing strikers like Shearer, Wright, Owen, Fowler and dare I say it Rhodes there are very few who knock them in season after season. If I was a chairman who owned a club and a striker scored 20 goals I'd sell him like a shot and look for the next one. Strikers rarely score +20 goals on back to back seasons.

So my stance on Gray stands. At £4m get him, but at £7m don't touch, especially with add ons. He might score 20 for Brentford, but we should be looking at the lad they are replacing him with. Now that would be a story.

What is everyone's obsession with Rhodes?

Austin, Ings, Deeney most likely, and other British strikers have adapted to the PL after playing in the Championship because the style of play does not alter drastically, just the quality.