City transfer thread

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Mr Hatem said:
I did and I'm not your mate. You are obviously not very good at reading between the lines ;)
Aren't you the one who said we wouldn't be signing Maloney? <laugh>
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I was the one saying I was hoping we wouldn't. I still think it's a hugely underwhelming signing in an area that we don't need. We don't even play with wingers FFS. Throwing the 1.5m at Southend for Bentley would have been much more useful.

I can read between the lines fine, Bruce was immediately dismissive of any chance of Gayle coming here, and Burnsy had to pry out of him that we'd even made an official enquiry.
 
Mr. Hat said:
It was wrong, transfer fees are taxed at standard rate VAT. The football league also issues a 5% levy on every single transfer payment, whether its compensation, transfer fee, loan fee, addon, sell on fee etc.

I also read something that said the player and agent generally take around 10% of every transfer fee between them, provided the player didn't request the move in writing.

Add to that lot any sell on fees which are calculated on the original total value of the transfer.

Its a bit of a gray area though as transfer fees are generally all undisclosed and the details aren't published so we've no idea if the amounts we see are pre or post all these payments. I would imagine they are the total sums though before any liabilities.
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Yes, most businesses would quote amounts net of VAT but newspapers would tend to want to highlight the highest possible amount.
 
hovetiger said:
Gayle being about 5 and a half foot tall I don't expect we'll have any more success from the 30 crosses a game we swing in from the flanks. Wouldn't be my choice; in fact I'd rather keep what we have than spunk even £6m on him. Mind you, I won't believe it until I get the chance to say 'How far away is he?' when he steps out of the tunnel at the KC
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Gayle 5'9"
Gray 5'10"
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
I was the one saying I was hoping we wouldn't. I still think it's a hugely underwhelming signing in an area that we don't need. We don't even play with wingers FFS. Throwing the 1.5m at Southend for Bentley would have been much more useful.

I can read between the lines fine, Bruce was immediately dismissive of any chance of Gayle coming here, and Burnsy had to pry out of him that we'd even made an official enquiry.
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I can't be arsed to trawl through hundreds of pages, but you did say we wouldn't be signing him, in addition to saying he is too old at 32 etc.
That must be an older Bruce interview you remember. Gayle now seems to be Plan B if we don't get Gray.
 
Mr Hatem said:
I can't be arsed to trawl through hundreds of pages, but you did say we wouldn't be signing him, in addition to saying he is too old at 32 etc.
That must be an older Bruce interview you remember. Gayle now seems to be Plan B if we don't get Gray.
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Chicago rejected our offer and said he wasn't for sale while they were still in the cup, so I was happy that it didn't look like happening. Clearly circumstances have changed now that they've been knocked out.

If you want to compare the situations, it'd be like Palace reducing their valuation of Gayle. Then, the situation having changed, Bruce would view Gayle as affordable and go after him.

FWIW I've been keen on Gayle for a while now, he has very similar stats to Gray. It's just a question of what the club can afford, and I think Gray is more affordable as his wage demands would be lesser.
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
Chicago rejected our offer and said he wasn't for sale while they were still in the cup, so I was happy that it didn't look like happening. Clearly circumstances have changed now that they've been knocked out.

If you want to compare the situations, it'd be like Palace reducing their valuation of Gayle. Then, the situation having changed, Bruce would view Gayle as affordable and go after him.

FWIW I've been keen on Gayle for a while now, he has very similar stats to Gray. It's just a question of what the club can afford, and I think Gray is more affordable as his wage demands would be lesser.
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Plus he seems to want to come, like another player a few years ago, Austin!<whistle>
 
Bengals Tiger said:
YOU despatched ANYONE with aplomb?!? I had you ranked in the top 90% of posters on this forum but, I'm sorry, I'm going to have to drop you into the bottom 10%, just above Karl. I seem to remember randomly selecting you as a test sample after my first joining the forum (I think you'd made some stupid comment about a flurry of new users with, in your opinion, silly user names: correct me if I'm wrong), but I quickly moved on as you came across as a bit of a wet Nellie. As I said earlier today, perception is subjective, but that was my perception. However, your obviously jokey comment about the Brotherhood of Putter-Downers is actually not far from the truth; just as when I first joined the forum, several innocent newbies in the last few days have been needlessly attacked after their first post. Why? You generally seem to be a fairly decent guy; why would you want to be associated with the far-from-decent attack dogs?
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:emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl: A wonderfully, unbelievable post. Perhaps I'm Frank about liking Underwood, who knows?

"Cry 'Havoc!' said he who fought chaos with chaos, and let slip the dogs of war"

You amuse me, but in the wrong way; SCB just amuses me, as does Vern.
 
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SydneyTiger14 said:
I was the one saying I was hoping we wouldn't. I still think it's a hugely underwhelming signing in an area that we don't need. We don't even play with wingers FFS. Throwing the 1.5m at Southend for Bentley would have been much more useful.

I can read between the lines fine, Bruce was immediately dismissive of any chance of Gayle coming here, and Burnsy had to pry out of him that we'd even made an official enquiry.
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We don't pay with wingers?

We've played 4-4-2 every bloody game so far.
 
CANADATIGER said:
This makes absolutely NO SENSE. It can't be true. Gray is desperate to join us. Gayle considers the Championship beneath him. Gayle is probably on 3x Grays wages... We already have Akpom who is far more suited to partner with Gray.
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I pretty much agree with this. Gayle is a decent player but doesn't strike me as a complement to the forwards he'd be playing with. And his wages will be high.

CANADATIGER said:
His goal scoring record after Peterborough is poor. 12 in 48 at CP. And we are interested in Gayle because he'd cost us 1 mill. less up front. ARE WE MAD!! Exchanging a possible 20 goal scorer for a player unlikely to score half that.
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However, I completely disagree with this. You've fallen into the Roo trap here. Gayle's 12 goals have come from 19 starts and 29 sub appearances, which actually means he's got a pretty good strike rate - especially when you consider that many of his starts have been in a wide role, out of position. I wasn't sure about him when Palace shelled out for him, but he's actually gone up in my estimations since then.
 
I'm not sure why Gayle is even being discussed, he's the same sort of fee as Gray, he's on much higher wages and he's obviously behind Gray on our target striker list.

Unless we went for Gayle on loan, there's absolutely no reason why we wouldn't go for Gray ahead of him.
 
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