Bruce Out? Surely?

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Can you tell me what you mean by negative football? There was some guy on here the other day that said attacking football is not about creating chances, I don't even know how you talk to someone who comes out with stuff like that. We've scored more goals than anyone else, surely the point of attacking is to score goals? If so, then who in this league is better than us at it?

You only have to look at Fulham to see what happens when you disrespect this league and think you can play kamikaze football and outscore everybody. Sometimes a bit of caution is necessary.

If you don't understand the meaning of 'negative', I suggest you google it.

Out of interest, how many away games have you done in the past eighteen months?
 
That was the team you and most wanted for some time? What when Snodgrass wasn't fit enough to play!!! Ye right.
Was it that when we were unbeaten with meyler in the middle of midfield for that great run. He was **** before it, undroppable during it and **** again after it.

When a player loses form, Bruce takes far too long to drop them.

Is that statement true or false?
 
If you don't understand the meaning of 'negative', I suggest you google it.

Out of interest, how many away games have you done in the past eighteen months?
Okay mate don't answer any questions then. For someone who I presume is over 60 you act like a bit of a kid.

I've been to no away games since the last time we were in the Championship. Preempting the "you aren't a real fan" comment - say what you want, I don't care whether people like you consider me a 'real' fan or not.
 
I said in the summer, after a season of negative and largely poor football, that I was indifferent as to whether he stayed or went. I believed he was more than capable of taking us straight back up, he has a great track record of doing so, but even assuming he did, I didn't really fancy another season of negative and largely poor football. Nothing has happened to change that opinion.
You save me posting a lot of stuff Lambo, it's like I think it and you post it. I'll probably be accused of being 'up your arse' because I have similar opinions to you on many things, personally I couldn't give a ****, you speak a lot of sense.















Now can I have that free pair of jeans, in 'fat bastard' size? <cheers>
 
When a player loses form, Bruce takes far too long to drop them.

Is that statement true or false?
Thank **** you're not responsible for making any important fans polls.

Thats a Hoofwanking bunglecunt of a question. Is that statement true or false? Actually, it's true, so don't worry about it.

Ever heard of context? How can he drop a player, who he trusts, and knows should be performing better, when there's actually no other options? There's loads of reasons to not drop a player. The reason he's a highly paid, and regarded manager, and you and the rest of us on here ain't, is because he knows what he's got and what they're capable of.

It's like the statement I saw from some cockwomble about we never scored without strikers on. Clearly a load of bollocks as we've done that in the past month or so.
 
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Okay mate don't answer any questions then. For someone who I presume is over 60 you act like a bit of a kid.

I've been to no away games since the last time we were in the Championship. Preempting the "you aren't a real fan" comment - say what you want, I don't care whether people like you consider me a 'real' fan or not.

<laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>

Got ya bus pass yet, Lammy!
 
There were a few decent performances and results, but overall we were very poor over that period, feel free to rewrite history should you wish, I'll stick with the reality.
Bollocks who's rewriting history. You said we were crap for 18 months.We werent. We beat Liverpool in that time, we drew with Man City. We stuffed Everton. We were relegated by a fine margin, ye we were relegated but we were nowhere near as bad as some make out.
 
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Bollocks who's rewriting history. You said we were crap for 18 months.We werent. We beat Liverpool in that time, we drew with Man City. We stuffed Everton. We were relegated by a fine margin, ye we were relegated but we were nowhere near as bad as some make out.

For someone who I presume is over 80, you have a great memory.
 
We played and won well yesterday and people are rightly praising the team and manager. By the same token, people were right to ask questions of the team and manager when the performances were unacceptable in away games last month. Appraisal of anything will rightly reflect the evidence it is based on.
 
Okay mate don't answer any questions then. For someone who I presume is over 60 you act like a bit of a kid.

I've been to no away games since the last time we were in the Championship. Preempting the "you aren't a real fan" comment - say what you want, I don't care whether people like you consider me a 'real' fan or not.

I never had any intention of questioning your fan qualifications, i just wondered if the reason you didn't understand what I was saying, was because you didn't actually see most of the games that had pissed me off.

Looks like I'm better at presuming than you. :emoticon-0109-kiss:
 
Thank **** you're not responsible for making any important fans polls.

Thats a Hoofwanking bunglecunt of a question. Is that statement true or false? Actually, it's true, so don't worry about it.

Ever heard of context? How can he drop a player, who he trusts, and knows should be performing better, when there's actually no other options? There's loads of reasons to not drop a player. The reason he's a highly paid, and regarded manager, and you and the rest of us on here ain't, is because he knows what he's got and what they're capable of.

It's like the statement I saw from some cockwomble about we never scored without strikers on. Clearly a load of bollocks as we've done that in the past month or so.

It took him months to drop Huddlestone and he can't claim it was due to a lack of options, we've got central midfielders coming out our ears.
 
You save me posting a lot of stuff Lambo, it's like I think it and you post it. I'll probably be accused of being 'up your arse' because I have similar opinions to you on many things, personally I couldn't give a ****, you speak a lot of sense.















Now can I have that free pair of jeans, in 'fat bastard' size? <cheers>

<laugh> I've given you 50% off, you tight bastard.
 
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'Winning things' Explanation needed ? I was being ironic. Hull City have won FA, which is why I questioned where some of you get your sky high expectations from.
You say quite proudly 'if we weren't challenging for promotion by Christmas I want Bruce gone' Why FFS ?
How many other City managers have had the club in the top third of the Championship ( before that Division 2) by Christmas ?
You can count them on the fingers of one hand. You'd run out of space trying to list all those who have failed miserably.
We haven't 'given ourselves' an outstanding opportunity at all. Steve Bruce, the owners, yes the owners, the players and everyone at the club have earned the right to be in a spot challenging for an immediate return to the Premier League. We should be 100% behind them, not sniping, whinging and demanding us to win promotion automatically as though we have some god given right because we are Hull City.
There are some far bigger clubs in the Championship then us who would give their right arms to be in our position. Clubs who have bigger fan bases, bigger grounds, therefore bigger potential, and clubs who are seeped in a tradition of winning trophies over many years. We've been in one FA Cup Final ( under Bruce) and enjoyed three seasons on the top flight in our history. FFS Oxford United have won more then us.
Yet we have a section of supporters who have expectations beyond belief based on what ?
I want my club to play at the highest level.
As do fans of every other club in the land.
If some of you put as much effort and passion into supporting the manager and what ever team he puts on the field and had a bit of faith in his judgement, not only would the gates improve at the KC along with the atmosphere, we just might be a club/team to be reckoned with and one who deserves to be at top of the division challenging for promotion to the Premier League.

You're a fool. The other day you had no idea about Michael Turner. In this post you claim we've only spent three seasons in the top flight, along with the most pathetic and ludicrous suggestion that past honours that aren't event recent have the slightest relevance to this season.

Expectations are founded on current circumstance, not on winning a Mickey mouse cup 50 years ago or how many people can fit in a stadium.

You talk like the typical delusional premier league fan, by your posts I gather quite clearly you haven't been going to city long.
 
With 3 away games coming up, it has to be an opportunity for Bruce to put right those away performances last month. The home form isn't an issue but we need to see if our recent form can be transferred into the away games. Those that went to Leeds, Rotherham and Preston are right to remain unconvinced until our away form improves.
 
Yesterday we got the team most of us had wanted to see for some time, how did that pan out? It's not arrogant to state what you think should happen, particularly when it turns out to be correct. Exactly the same thing happened with Huddlestone earlier in the season, it took Bruce forever to see what had been obvious to the rest of us for months.

It's certainly true that Bruce makes decisions we can't comprehend, his substitutions are often particularly baffling.

Swap Curtis Davies for Michael Dawson and I think you have our best starting 11. Hope we go with that team at Fulham
 
OLM has it right, we've had 18 months of mostly crap, Bruce himself admitted about a month ago he didn't know how to address team selection issues. Davies was interviewed at Christmas going on about cracks behind the scenes. Yesterday Bruce got Hayden in and Elmo was replaced, Huddlestone has been benched, all this stuff was suggested on here from the beginning of the season and it's taken him half the season to figure it out. Nobody thinks we are Real Madrid but if Bruce had maximised the squads potential and rotated the squad properly then maybe we would be looking down at Boro now and would have a much bigger gap to Derby. Everybody can see the quality in our squad. That's reality for you not blind faith that ' Bruce will get it right' when patently he hasn't a lot of the time

Very well said Bo. It was nice to get a 6-0 win over a laughably poor Charlton side but it is hard to see how this offsets the dismal performances against equally weak bottom-dwellers in the Championship this year, and the tactical and team selection errors that threw away key points in the Premiership in the second half of last season and resulted in our eventual relegation. Those represent massive failures of management that has to be laid at Bruces door, and no amount of "comfortable win euphoria" and our position in the table can erase the amnesia over his previous repeated errors in judgement.

Does yesterdays win mean that Bruce has seen the light, that the scales have dropped from his eyes, that the truth has dawned, that he is a NEW MAN??? No more pathetic slow motion build ups in mid-field with Huddlestone et al passing the ball sidewards and backwards while the opposition regroups and blankets our outnumbered lone striker.? No more shutting up shop in the last 20+ minutes to hopefully cling on to fragile leads which failed dismally time after time after an unpressed inferior opposition threw everyone forward to get a share of the points.? No more lone strikers ploughing lonely furrows up front waiting for penetrating through balls or mid-field attacking support that never comes ???? No more Rotherhams, Boltons, Leeds, Prestons, Charlton (away), etc etc.????

Arguably the best squad we have ever assembled has performed far below its potential, notwithstanding its position in the table. Yesterday, despite the poverty of the opposition, we saw some of that potential, a relentless attack, rock solid defense, and a rejuvenated Hernandez taking full advantage of his freedom. The shackles were off. We were playing the kind of football of which we have always been capable....but have seldom showed.

I believe if we can keep Hernandez healthy and add another quality striker we should gain automatic promotion. But is Bruce the man to manage us at the next level??? That, as raised earlier, is really the question that the Allams will have to answer in the coming months.
 
With 3 away games coming up, it has to be an opportunity for Bruce to put right those away performances last month. The home form isn't an issue but we need to see if our recent form can be transferred into the away games. Those that went to Leeds, Rotherham and Preston are right to remain unconvinced until our away form improves.
This coming 4 away games is the acid test
6/7 points and id be very happy
Also a Cup win and its nailed on for Sir Bruce to be manager if the month
 
Bollocks who's rewriting history. You said we were crap for 18 months.We werent. We beat Liverpool in that time, we drew with Man City. We stuffed Everton. We were relegated by a fine margin, ye we were relegated but we were nowhere near as bad as some make out.
We were the third worst team in the premier league, so yes we were bad. If we had of had burnleys squad people would have accepted it better, but we didn't, we had a squad that cost millions to put together and should of as Bruce put it 'been up there trying to win our league of of the bottom 10 teams'. In his attempt to achieve that we came 8th of the ten! Pretty poor really.

I can see both sides of the argument, but one thing that gripes me is, why can't we have high expectations? Just because for large parts of our history we have been crap doesn't mean we have to just be happy with what we have! I said it earlier but I think Bruce will get us promoted I just don't think he is good enough to keep us there, and nothing he did in those last 18 months of been a premier league team will change that. We were underperforming dross at times.