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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by billywoofsdog, Dec 14, 2011.

  1. St-Louis Tiger

    St-Louis Tiger Active Member

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    Agreed mate, Cairney was great in the prem and has been garbage in the NPC. McLean works his arse off, has pace and strength, he'd worth a crack if we were to go up but i would want another option as he could easily be proven well out of his depth as well.

    As for Gulacsi, the guy was a bag of nerves when playing against Blackpool, he's clearly too young to have a crack at the big time. He has shown the potential to grow into a good keeper though and he's got all the time in the world to do that.
     
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  2. PLT

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    These are the typical sort of players who people will say this about. Every tiem Ash got promoted he was 'not ready' for the next level whereas everyone thought the likes of Green and Elliott would do well in the higher leagues. How did that work out again?

    Thinking about it, I've seen people say on here that Chester and Stewart aren't 'ready' for the PL. If that's the case would we have to buy an entire new team upon promotion?
     
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  3. King Curtis

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    Pearson actually gave Brown the chance to turn things around though. Given our poor league form over the 10 months previous and perilous league position Pearson could well have come in and got rid of Brown there and then, but was prepared to give Brown the opportunity to turn things around and see how things turned out with Duffen out of the frame. Brown had the opportunity to turn things around and despite a few exceptions such as both our games with Man City and Chelsea at home we were pretty woeful. We failed to beat the likes of Blackburn and Wolves and putting in abject performances accompained with heavy defeats such as at West Ham and Everton. I think we all expected the season to be a struggle, but as I said in a previous post Brownie didn't use the resources at his disposal to the best of his ability, playing players out of position, daft substitutions and not swallowing his pride and playing players who he did not see eye to eye with at times. We showed our potential to compete in said games against the big teams, but when it mattered we were found wanting. The sacking came at a strange time and indeed his replacement was questionable, but who else was going to take it? Brown maybe should have seen the season out with us, 100% of which I'm certain would have seen us relegated to the Championship and maybe Brown could have had the opportunity to try and take us back up. But, the way things had been going for the 12 months previous, Pearson was perfectly inclined to feel someone else could take the job, someone to implement new and fresh ideas. Since early 2009 things hadn't been working out for Brown here, a fresh challenge is maybe what was best for both parties. As good as his achievements were with us they were in the past, the present situation is what mattered and a new brush to sweep clean is what we needed.
     
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  4. originallambrettaman

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    There's a rumour that he might be offered the vacant managerial position at Hartlepool.
     
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  5. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    PG would have to be a No.2 if city kept him and for sure City would need a No.1 (cue the return on maybe myhill) All Bo lacks is a command of his area. That can soon be coached. As a shot stopper Bo has proved more than good enough for the PL. As for howlers, name me a GK who has not not made one.
     
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  6. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    certainly not ready for the type of PL clubs who have been linked with signing them in january thats for sure. but maybe in the future who knows ? hopefully with hull city.
     
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  7. St-Louis Tiger

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    I didn't mention howlers, i think he's too young and nervous to make it in the prem, he needs to grow in confidence a lot more if he's going to be a prem keeper which i'm sure Liverpool are hoping he does. But as for now, i'd want a better 2nd keeper if we were to get the prem, if we signed him i'd send him on loan to a championship club to get some experience <whistle>
     
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  8. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    i bet sam collins cannot wait ? :emoticon-0114-dull:
     
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  9. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    i know you didn't. another poster referred to having Bo back after last weeks mis-hap. lol. thats what i referred to.
    but i think Bo and PG could both be great @ city working under gary walsh.
     
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  10. originallambrettaman

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    I bet Sam Collins barely knows him, he was permanently injured while Brownie was in charge.
     
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  11. St-Louis Tiger

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    Oh, that was me <laugh> though it was a joke, Bo's obviously not ****
     
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  12. TONY_WARNERS_FACE.

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    Hartlepool in the PL? Could be interesting.
     
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  13. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    i wonder why ? sam collins will have the same shelf life as wayne brown had when brownie went to PNE.
     
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  14. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    only the Blue Square Premier League.
     
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  15. originallambrettaman

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    It could be, pity we'll never find out.
     
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  16. King Curtis

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    And the fact his record at Preston wasn't anything to write home about doesn't dampen your optomism on this one?
     
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    selective and disingenuous and exactly the kind of nonsense we expect from twf.

    i assume the derby manager you refer to is billy davies who left with derby in last place with 6 points from 14 games and no goals for 6 games. but i know that's the kind of record that impresses you. it's just that most of the rest of the footballing world dont have your patience and respect for people who achieve such records.

    as for pearson unfairly sacking people, you would no doubt be happy if every manager who had promoted a team were allowed a whole season to relegate them as well. when pearson returned to city we had 8 points from 11 games but took 7 from the next 3. then 9 from the next 15. we won 5 out of brown's last 57 games.

    let me put it this way:

    there's absolutely no reason to suggest that billy davies or phil brown can handle the pl, and every reason to suggest they can't.
     
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  18. DaveBambersPostman

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    Turner was sold because the bank wanted the overdraft repaying. This was thanks to all the cash Bart had taken out the club to support his failing construction company. Not to mention the enormous wage bills we had each month. The fact that he paid the money back into the club 'later' does not matter. At the time, the bank got the willies and had no faith in Bart. Losing Turner really screwed us.
     
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  19. DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)

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    well put <ok>
     
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  20. Party Hull!

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    I wish him well too.

    I don't wish to judge, but I am entitled to my opinion. The two are pretty much the same I suppose. I notice you've decided to have an opinion on it too. You judging swine.

    I'll stop short at saying you have a 'pathetic little life' simply because I don't share your views. I guess I'm just better than that. Or just less angry. Or less obnoxious.

    One thing I will say, is that Brown will never be a Prem manager again. Reason? He's not good enough. I don't deny what he did in getting there (well done and thank you) but it won't happen again. He did brilliant things for a while, then massive flaws became apparent. I won't rip him to shreds for it, just point it out. It's a debating forum after all.

    I don't think that's unreasonable.
     
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