I think you can make a case for in or out of the EU without making it into a political slanging match, I'm voting out which would probably surprise most people who know me in real lifeWho are you? David Dimbleby?
I think you can make a case for in or out of the EU without making it into a political slanging match, I'm voting out which would probably surprise most people who know me in real lifeWho are you? David Dimbleby?

Classic Project Fear rhetoric.....vote IN otherwise we will be isolated militarily.Do they really say that?
Isolated how? Your the biggest military power in the EU and you have the US with you.Classic Project Fear rhetoric.....vote IN otherwise we will be isolated militarily.
There are also unsubstantiated rumours of a long term project for a Pan European army.
NATO and the EU are separate entities in any case.Isolated how? Your the biggest military power in the EU and you have the US with you.
As far as military relationships go I think Trump is a bigger threat to that for you then leaving the EU would be. Trump wants to change the relationship we have with NATO.NATO and the EU are separate entities in any case.
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For the record the UK has led the world in workers rights.
Leaving the EU won't cause a collapse.
Like staying in won't help the French ones currently on strike.
This is a classic project fear lie.
I'm not - hence my last sentence which you have ignored. It is a fact, though, that it is the right wing of the Tory party and the far right groups that are mainly supporting the Leave campaign. I have never been a xenophobic "Little Englander" which is how I regard these people and I certainly aren't going to become one now!!I'm not making political comments but I don't think you should base your vote on personalities, you can't lump in Dennis Skinner and the likes of the late Tony Benn with the right wingers you mention
Oh. Forgot to say, Brexit will tear the Tories apart, not make them stronger.
I'm not - hence my last sentence which you have ignored. It is a fact, though, that it is the right wing of the Tory party and the far right groups that are mainly supporting the Leave campaign. I have never been a xenophobic "Little Englander" which is how I regard these people and I certainly aren't going to become one now!!
Oh. Forgot to say, Brexit will tear the Tories apart, not make them stronger.
Some people planning on voting to leave are racists, simple as, however, plenty of people voting to stay aren't especially great either, plenty of "I'm alright Jack" sorts. You can't decide on which way to vote based on which overall set of people are less ****y though, you need to make your own decision, do what you feel is right. That's what I'm doing, and either way it'll feel very wrong! Aren't the Tories clever, getting us all wound up and divided by all this.
Hope this is ok Mods. I'm not like some of you lot who can post all day tomorrow and discuss it. Close it the day after.
I' m a definite OUT. I doubt it will happen though. The scaremongering has been a disgrace. The use of the Mp being killed has also been a disgrace.
I saw Cameron have his arse handed to him on Sunday night on the BBC, 3 hours later on the BBC news it was so heavily edited to make him look brilliant it was sickening.
So, IN or OUT and try and be civil.
Assuming you're right, an in vote with Corbyn as the alternative will guarantee years more Tory rule, which will see further erosion.It isn't. Under Conservative rule workers rights are already being eroded. If not protected by the EWTD they will be eroded further.
I'm not - hence my last sentence which you have ignored. It is a fact, though, that it is the right wing of the Tory party and the far right groups that are mainly supporting the Leave campaign. I have never been a xenophobic "Little Englander" which is how I regard these people and I certainly aren't going to become one now!!