Off Topic BREXIT

Out

 

It's UK vote, they get one too.

 

They are forced to stay due to your higher population, if their population votes to stay and they are still forced to leave then they should get a vote to leave you. Thats the concept of self determination.

 

That option is available to them in the future. They've a long way to go before Europe would want them without us bolstering them, and having a monetary system that others had confidence in.

 

People in Scotland will overwhelmingly vote to stay in the EU, so if Britain as a whole votes to leave, you can imagine how miffed they'll be. This on top of them repeatedly voting Labour almost 100% in the past, and SNP now, yet getting regular Conservative governments that no one in Scotland votes for.

So, if we leave, they leave us. I'd rather keep the UK in tact, though it's not the main issue here. You can see why the Scots get irritated.

Like most, I don't think the EU is a utopia. However, a Britain edging towards the hard-right of the Conservative party and UKIP is much worse to me.

 

Conversely, the SNP end up with about 60 seats in Parliament whilst UKIP with 3 times as many voresand the Green Party with twice as many get one seat so they have an influence out of all proportion to how many booted for them.

 

Sure, and thats all I said.

 

They voted to stay in the UK so it is what the UK decides that matters.

 

In.

The ratio of ****s campaigning for leave is much greater than the remain side.

 

A good post, Happy. Agree with most of that.

 

Rules for the Hull Forum

I think we only really have the 3 we all agreed on when we first came over from the BBC 606 site.

1) We don't talk about politics unless it's related to the club/football - ie the Allams vs the Council over the stadium.

2) We don't talk about religion.

3) We don't act like arses with each other or be otherwise offensive.

NB: These are just the rules for this section of the site. You're free to post in any section of the site, but bear in mind other sections may have different rules and when you are there you will be expected to follow them.

So why bother with rules!!!

You know it won't end well.

 

I would beg to differ.

 

No, you cant vote for self determination to leave the EU and then tell another set of people that they dont have the right to self determination because you tell them you dont want them to leave. If the English want to leave the EU but Scotland wants to stay then they should have that option to leave you after the vote.

 

I'm voting leave. Never in doubt. Cameron is sweating it because it's a lot closer to an exit vote than he had anticipated. Hence a lot of hastily arranged conferences.

 

Without a doubt another referendum on Scottish independence will follow hot on the heels of Brexit, and they won't be scared into staying this time.

 

The rules have always had a degree of flexibility and on occasions, there are topics that are too important to ignore, and that would like as not crop up in a variety of threads. In my opinion, it's better that we have a thread for the discussion, so the rest of the board can carry on as normal.

As ever, it's the users not the mods that run the board, so I'll go with the consensus, but I'd rather that debate didn't disrupt this thread..

 

And you are well within your rights.









Michael Gove

 

Thats certainly what our news is saying but I havent looked into it enough to formulate my own opinion.

Its hard to say what I would do because simply I am not you. Any opinion I have will be based entirely of a different set of life experiences and environment than you all experienced.

 

And you give a **** if we do? Thanks for your colonial lesson in democracy.

I'm out.

I lived in Europe for 14 years, neither I, nor my wife, are Europeans.