This Tymon argument is tiresome. Boring. Boring. Boring. Insert fart noise. How long will it rage on? No one is going to change their minds. Be quiet. Be happy. X
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You'll have to direct me to my posts 'utterly slating' young Clark as I don't remember posting them. I certainly said I didn't think he looked good enough at left back at this level, but you'd have to be rather fragile to call that a slating.As for Kingsley, I said 'from what we've seen so far', I obviously hope he improves, his reputation suggests there's more to come.
Poor lad, that's another one I seem to have utterly slated.
Whether you chose to believe it or not, I know we could have kept Tymon had we handled it better and no ranting you or Chazz do on here will change that view.
It's less likely Tymon would have 'sacked us off' if the Allams weren't here because:
A) Any sane owner would have entered contract negotiations when it became clear he was even half-decent, probably before the Arsenal game I would guess
B) They wouldn't have tried to make a first team professional play on a scholarship deal
Players aren't saints, the cleverest or the most loyal. That's why it's necessary not to have a complete moron-**** as an owner to take care of this **** before it occurs.
In my experience, in business, and for that matter in life in general you should never slam doors as you never know when you may need to go back. It appears that Ehab Allam has yet to learn this valuable life lesson.
As this stands as the nearest thing to the truth that I have come across, it really does make criticism of the lad really quite poor. I've even seen the daft argument being used to criticise his ability and future prospects. All very sad and revealing.
It probably fair to say that mistakes were made on both sides, as far as Tymon was concerned. I suspect they learnt by the Tymon situation, not to make the same mistakes with Bowen.
But you are right in saying that Bowen has done the right thing, and Tymon is looking as if he is just going to be playing in the U23's at Stoke.
Talksport are talking to Aidy Boothroyd at 2.30pm, apparently they plan to ask why Bowen isn't in the squad.
Learning from mistakes has not exactly been a hallmark of the Allams over the past 4 years.
You're right there, but even the stupid have to get it right now and again, just by the law of averages.
Enob working on your theory John:
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And him being pleased with the results:
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Boothroyd said he had a great deal of talent at his disposal at the moment and it takes a great deal to break into the current squad.
To be fair, all the current England U21 midfielders and strikers are at Premier League clubs.
Are they all playing regularly and scoring though? Bowen's top scorer in the Championship and not by a fluke.
Apart from the New York lad Harrison. No idea whether he's any good at all.
Yes it was. It was reported here.
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and elsewhere. Hence public domain. I already said I couldn’t guarantee its authenticity.
I despise the Allam regime. But you seriously lack objectivity and lament and see everything they do in pejoration.
Perhaps it’s my schooling, but it makes you seem unreliable and damages your credibility.
After a few games, you dismissed him as not being good enough for this division, which I’d say for a footballer, could be adequately described as slating or utterly slating (given that he's intended to play in this division). It’s semantic of course.
Additionally, factoring in that he’s young, Hull born and new to the first team, it emphasises my point.
Also, do you often perceive a view contrary to your own as ‘ranting’?
Seems somewhat insecure.
Is there something the Allams have done which has been unduly lamented, by me or anyone else? If anything I think they're extremely lucky to have got off so lightly considering the list of things they've done.
Your posts are closer to ranting than my are to slating.
I've been described as many things on here, most of them the polar opposite of insecure.
Tammy Abraham - 2 in 7 for Swansea.
Dominic Calvert-Lewin - Hasn't scored in 6 for Everton (though I thought he looked excellent on Saturday, despite Everton being crap).
Demarai Gray - Never scores for Leicester, though his England U21's record is pretty good.
Jack Harrison - He's scored 10 in 32 for New York City this season (called up to replace the injured Ojo).
Ademola Lookman - Hasn't even played in the league this season.
Dominic Solanke - Hasn't scored in three for Liverpool (though he's a very good player).
You could make a decent case for sticking Bowen in there ahead of Lookman or Harrison.