Blame Game.

Move then. The South stand is not the place to make noise as everyone sits and looks at you like you are mental.

What the **** are you on about..".move then". EVERY stand should be the place to make noise. If people don't like me gobbing off and swearing then they can **** off. I was in the South stand both at BP and the KC long before most of the sanitised miserable ****s who inhabit it these days.
 
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What are you on about now? Can you justify your claim that City fans just hate every owner regardless of what they do?

Now you've extended it to chairmen I'll take the open goal offered and point out the previous two again. Pearson was universally popular, and the vast majority were happy with Bartlett until the truth became known.

What's your point again?
Can I justify my claim that a minority of fans bitch and whine about everything, yes, yes I can.

So other than 1 you mentioned previously, and 1 you're now mentioning, having not mentioned him (Pearson) previously but are claiming you did (<laugh>), you've got nowt?

You've also managed to pick 1 most people, even on here wouldn't want anywhere near back at our club. Most wouldn't want the other either. Both at the time had people moaning about them, so yeah, thanks for proving my point you half wit.

I'd love to have a battle of wits with you but my mam told me not to pick on people who are defenseless, and you son, are that.
 
Out of interest where are we in the distance covered stats this season? We had a couple in the top 20 last season and always seemed to cover the ground
 
Bruce's **** signings. Huddlestone ****, Hernandez ****, Davies ****, Livermore ****. Name change is also a distraction and I blame Allam for that. The players for being a bunch of Fannies.
 
No. If it happened once or twice, sure, yes, bad luck. To have happened all season, from the Stoke game to the Southampton game just passed, we have not had one game where we have started and finished strongly. Look at Cardiff last season away where we won 4-0. We started strong and dominated the game. I can't think of a single game this season where we dominated the entire game. Maybe Villa at home but not much else. Bruce's subs have been bemusing; when we've been winning he's taken off our best attacking outlets and opened us up to pressure and teams have equalised or beaten us, and when we've been losing he's thrown on 4 strikers and hoped they'd score. It's laughably bad. His management of injuries has also always been horrendous. We can say injuries are down to luck sometimes, but the consistency with which players coming back from injury re-injure themselves is pathetic.
Yes all good points, and not saying that Chelsea being at the top is all down to good luck, but, it plays a part, and with a little more of it, we would not be were we are now. Just as if say Diame had not got injured it may well have made a difference, the margins are small between success and failure whether you are at the top like Chelsea or as we find ourselves at the moment at the bottom. Just for the record ever since people were talking earlier on on these forums about top ten finishes-smacking of overconfidence, I for one was leery of our chances and felt that relegation was a distinct possibility. I am becoming more convinced, like others, that indeed it will happen, based upon our current poor run were nothing seems to fall for us-take Aluko's attempt on Saturday a fraction to the right and that would have been in. But I tend to be pessimistic where City are concerned given there past record, and the world belongs to pessimists-they are always right!
 
Can I justify my claim that a minority of fans bitch and whine about everything, yes, yes I can.

So other than 1 you mentioned previously, and 1 you're now mentioning, having not mentioned him (Pearson) previously but are claiming you did (<laugh>), you've got nowt?

You've also managed to pick 1 most people, even on here wouldn't want anywhere near back at our club. Most wouldn't want the other either. Both at the time had people moaning about them, so yeah, thanks for proving my point you half wit.

I'd love to have a battle of wits with you but my mam told me not to pick on people who are defenseless, and you son, are that.

I'm sure in your head you think you're coming out on top in these exchanges, so I hate to break it to you, but you're not.
 
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I'm sure in your head you think you're coming out on top in these exchanges, so I hate to break it to you, but you're not.
Bless, sticking up for our resident PLW who's gone all quiet. I'm sure he'll be along now its safe for him to "Like" your post.

Would you like to point out any universally loved owners of the club, seeing as, apart from your 10 year break, you've been supporting the club for a lot longer than PLW?
 
Bless, sticking up for our resident PLW who's gone all quiet. I'm sure he'll be along now its safe for him to "Like" your post.

Would you like to point out any universally loved owners of the club, seeing as, apart from your 10 year break, you've been supporting the club for a lot longer than PLW?

PLT is more than capable of speaking for himself, but the Pearson/Wilkinson partnership was universally popular from the day they took over to the day they sold up.

Bartlett and Allam are very similar, both started off brilliantly, then ran up massive debts chasing the Premier League dream and turned out to know nothing about running a successful football club.
 
This ^^^^^

Though I'm not convinced the move to north stand has helped,

it split sections of people who had been round each other & sang together for years - reasons ? 'out of sight out of Allemind'

many people have given up (due to the name change saga) or were priced out of the game

injuries have caused inconsistent formations & results have reinforced the inconsistencies

players have underperformed & the two we sold (Boyd & Long) both had the work ethic that far to often is lacking now
(apart from the odd show case against 'bigger' clubs when we loose anyway)

The Sky premier league sanitation continues - a dystopian product of 1/2 & 1/2 scarves with 1/2 & 1/2 'customers' ...

Agree with much of that but the North Stand thing has nothing to do with the lack of atmosphere. It is simply that too few people join in. Look how few stand at the KC compared to other clubs. This applies both home and away.
 
QPR's support has been terrific for them today, we need to do the same. Loud and boisterous and intimidating to the opposition. Roaring whenever we get the ball forward or have a corner.

Another open goal for someone there.
 
Bruce's subs have been bemusing; when we've been winning he's taken off our best attacking outlets and opened us up to pressure and teams have equalised or beaten us, and when we've been losing he's thrown on 4 strikers and hoped they'd score. It's laughably bad. His management of injuries has also always been horrendous. We can say injuries are down to luck sometimes, but the consistency with which players coming back from injury re-injure themselves is pathetic.

Our 'best attacking outlets' are N'Doye and Jelly (who is out for the season).
What 'strikers'? Sagbo - 2 from 32. Aluko 2 from 37. Hernandez 4 from 20 (1 from the past 19). Throwing on players like them has reduced us to 10, 9 or 8 men. Bit hard to get a result under those circumstances.
We have been behind the eight ball since day one with injuries.
Our demise has come from the lack of supply.
Elmo has been negated in 90% of our games by some of the worlds finest defenders. Brady too has been ineffective for the same reason.
Our midfield is consistently running into brick walls because there are no wingers to distribute the ball to.
It will be a 'hard ask' to get something our of our remaining games.
 
Our 'best attacking outlets' are N'Doye and Jelly (who is out for the season).
What 'strikers'? Sagbo - 2 from 32. Aluko 2 from 37. Hernandez 4 from 20 (1 from the past 19). Throwing on players like them has reduced us to 10, 9 or 8 men. Bit hard to get a result under those circumstances.
We have been behind the eight ball since day one with injuries.
Our demise has come from the lack of supply.
Elmo has been negated in 90% of our games by some of the worlds finest defenders. Brady too has been ineffective for the same reason.
Our midfield is consistently running into brick walls because there are no wingers to distribute the ball to.
It will be a 'hard ask' to get something our of our remaining games.

I thought you'd blocked me?

Our best attacking outlets - namely Jelavic - were being regularly subbed off in games like Newcastle early in the season as we set up shop and we then conceded equalisers.

We threw Sagbo and Hernandez on against Southampton so I don't understand what you're saying. I'm criticising him for throwing them on because having 4 strikers on the field is useless. You're essentially agreeing with me.

Actually read my post before blindly arguing with me.
 
I thought you'd blocked me?

Our best attacking outlets - namely Jelavic - were being regularly subbed off in games like Newcastle early in the season as we set up shop and we then conceded equalisers.

We threw Sagbo and Hernandez on against Southampton so I don't understand what you're saying. I'm criticising him for throwing them on because having 4 strikers on the field is useless. You're essentially agreeing with me.

Actually read my post before blindly arguing with me.

I did and you said "STRIKERS" - my argument is that they are not 'strikers' arseholes!
He might as well have sent you and me on for what good they did BUT he has no other options. Both Sagbo and Hernandez have failed to fire at this level and Aluko hasn't the faintest idea on how to pass the ball but what else could Bruce have done?
I sympathize with Bruce on his appalling run of bad luck, injuries and what we can only call 'passengers' in the side this season.
If we mange to escape relegation then all the above will have to go as they are absolutely useless at this level.
 
I sympathize with Bruce on his appalling run of bad luck, injuries and what we can only call 'passengers' in the side this season.
If we mange to escape relegation then all the above will have to go as they are absolutely useless at this level.

what are you talking about, Bruce bought them - his record with strikers is somewhere between ****e and ****ing useless - Prostwitsch, Graham, Sagbo, Hernandez, Aluko - only Long and Jelevic were anything like and he sold Long - N'Doye looked good but has cooled off in the last few games but negative tactics mean they don't get the service anyway - pound for pound Bruce has totally ****ed up with the transfer kitty - and that's a fact
 
He's loaned us even more money and added to the already huge debt.

And they do it because their making a nice profit from the interest... oh and to 'help the community' obviously.

Are you sure he's lent us more money? He didn't lend us anything last season and repaid some of the debt.
 
Are you sure he's lent us more money? He didn't lend us anything last season and repaid some of the debt.


I thought he changed his year end from end July to end June - by doing so he recorded small profit - Im not aware he repaid any of the debt but maybe he did - anyway he started his spending spree in July so its not clear whether he really made a profit or whether it was a feature of changing his year end - sure you have more insight than I do
 
what are you talking about, Bruce bought them - his record with strikers is somewhere between ****e and ****ing useless - Prostwitsch, Graham, Sagbo, Hernandez, Aluko - only Long and Jelevic were anything like and he sold Long - N'Doye looked good but has cooled off in the last few games but negative tactics mean they don't get the service anyway - pound for pound Bruce has totally ****ed up with the transfer kitty - and that's a fact

I cannot argue with that Charon. My point is regarding the number of posters who make excuses for these so-called strikers by trying to convince me that they will come good given the chance or they 'contribute' in other ways. They are not 'strikers' @rseholes and a deaf, dumb and blind man could see that. I am told that I am 'obsessed' with goals, well have a look at the Clubs who have scored the most goals and you will find them in the top ten whereas those who have scored the least goals are at the bottom, now, does that not tell you something? I don't mind people trying to kid me but they are kidding themselves when they talk about 'hold-up' players, 'target men' and that they 'contribute' in other ways. What a load of absolute and utter bollocks!
P.S. We had no option but sell Long for the price that was offered but the absolute 'sitter' he missed in the first ten seconds, plus his record this season, says that we got the best of the deal by a country mile.
 
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