Assem Allam on meeting with supporters re name change.

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Bum_Chinned_Crab said:
No, Im saying OUR club is Hull City AFC. Hull Tigers is not our club.



I dont understand this. Go on then, if the name isnt the most important part of the club then what is?
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The location. No matter what the club is called, it's still the professional football club representing Hull (and East Yorkshire for that matter). If he was doing a Wimbledon/MK Dons style move, that would be different, then I'd agree with you. But he's not. He's proposing removing a couple of words and replacing them with what's probably the most recognisable word of our clubs image.

How can you possibly believe renaming the club makes it a different club? If I renamed myself via deed poll it wouldn't make me a different person. If Volkswagen made their official name simply 'VW' it wouldn't make their cars different machines, so how on earth does renaming the football club make it a different club?
 
originallambrettaman said:
No, it's Hull City Tigers Limited' with companies house and 'Hull City' on the FA register(the the FA have a hand written historic register that has us as Hull Cit AFC), though he doesn't seem to realise this.
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No, I meant before he altered it to Hull City Tigers Limited.

Thing is, he was claiming this morning that he wasn't changing the name, he was shortening it; that Tigers was already in the official name.

It's all semantics, but it seems to me he has nullified anything he said in the consultation meeting by asserting that he has not changed the name, that he has shortened it.
 
StrovolosTiger said:
No, I meant before he altered it to Hull City Tigers Limited.

Thing is, he was claiming this morning that he wasn't changing the name, he was shortening it; that Tigers was already in the official name.

It's all semantics, but it seems to me he has nullified anything he said in the consultation meeting by asserting that he has not changed the name, that he has shortened it.
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Before he changed it, it was Hull City AFC (Tigers) Ltd.
 
Mr. Hat said:
The location. No matter what the club is called, it's still the professional football club representing Hull (and East Yorkshire for that matter). If he was doing a Wimbledon/MK Dons style move, that would be different, then I'd agree with you. But he's not. He's proposing removing a couple of words and replacing them with what's probably the most recognisable word of our clubs image.

How can you possibly believe renaming the club makes it a different club? If I renamed myself via deed poll it wouldn't make me a different person. If Volkswagen made their official name simply 'VW' it wouldn't make their cars different machines, so how on earth does renaming the football club make it a different club?
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So when he moves Hull Tigers to Melton is that when you finally wake up? And then he drops the word Hull to tap into a wider geographical pot calling us simply Tigers is that going too far or will you say "well as long as we're good on the pitch, he's the boss"?

And your comparison doesnt work in any way, shape or form. There are millions of cars out there you can own and you change your car every few years. We are talking about something where in 109 years the ONLY constant in all of that has been the name. It astounds me that people proclaiming to be fans can have this attitude. I can cast iron guarantee there is no other club in the top flight of English football who have so many fans who would roll over and take this royal ****ing shafting from a mental despot and it frankly sickens me. Liverpool are light years behind Man Utd in terms of revenues and havent won the leage for 20 years. What do you think the reaction would be if Fenway said we're changing the name in an attempt to address this?
 
Bum_Chinned_Crab said:
So when he moves Hull Tigers to Melton is that when you finally wake up?

And your comparison doesnt work in any way, shape or form. There are millions of cars out there you can own and you change your car every few years. We are talking about something where in 109 years the ONLY constant in all of that has been the name. It astounds me that people proclaiming to be fans can have this attitude.

I can cast iron guarantee there is no other club in the top flight of English football who have so many fans who would roll over and take this royal ****ing shafting from a mental despot and it frankly sickens me. Liverpool are light years behind Man Utd in terms of revenues and havent won the leage for 20 years. What do you think the reaction would be if Fenway said we're changing the name in an attempt to address this?
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I wouldn't bring Melton into it, if I were you. I think there are many, many more people would NOT have a problem moving to Melton than there are having a problem with the Club being called Hull Tigers.
 
look_back_in_amber said:
Fez, I didn't have to wait long to find yet another example of what I find to be neither helpful or constructive but potentially very damaging comments, not that you surely need me to highlight such startlingly outragous comments as these. These are obviously very personal and disparaging comments that, imo, should not be aired on a public forum, and these are from a moderator, maybe he will find it within himself to ban me for not being personal and disparaging enough.

In what possible way do you think he/she thinks the above comments can be seen to be of any help in this current situation?

****? Clueless ****er? You have such a nice turn of phrase PLT...NOT! I'd seriously love to see you in a face to face meeting with AA and hear you make those accusations to his face. Whatever you may think of him PLT he hasn't done too bad a job so far and certainly doesn't deserves your deplorable and, quite frankly, despicable comments!
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No, certainly not; the comment is out of order, but not surprising. The comments are not helpful to the situation, nor are they damaging; they are simply a measure of the individual who made them. Best ignored.
 
StrovolosTiger said:
I wouldn't bring Melton into it, if I were you. I think there are many, many more people would NOT have a problem moving to Melton than there are having a problem with the Club being called Hull Tigers.
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So if that's the case it highlights my point perfectly - when does a club cease being a club? If we change the name and the location where it plays home games I just dont see why people can still think it is the same club. Are people that apathetic that they think 'well, it's 10 miles nearer for me so that's perfect".

I just dont get it, I really dont.
 
Macca Is God said:
Philip Buckingham ‏@PJBuckingham 2h
Spent the last hour with Assem Allam. He believes only a vocal minority against the rebranding of the club.

Amber Nectar ‏@Amber__Nectar 19m
@PJBuckingham 78% against in HDM. 99.6% of HCSS. 78% of AN against. 90% of Tigers Co-op against. 80% of CI against. Odd sort of minority...

Philip Buckingham ‏@PJBuckingham 50s
@Amber__Nectar I put the results of our survey to him. He said that was "a majority of a minority."




He's ****ing lost it completely.
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He hasn't lost it, I wish folk would stop saying that! He is totally in control.
 
Mr. Hat said:
The location. No matter what the club is called, it's still the professional football club representing Hull (and East Yorkshire for that matter). If he was doing a Wimbledon/MK Dons style move, that would be different, then I'd agree with you. But he's not. He's proposing removing a couple of words and replacing them with what's probably the most recognisable word of our clubs image.

How can you possibly believe renaming the club makes it a different club? If I renamed myself via deed poll it wouldn't make me a different person. If Volkswagen made their official name simply 'VW' it wouldn't make their cars different machines, so how on earth does renaming the football club make it a different club?
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He's not renaming it, according to his RH interview. He's merely 'shortening' it.....
 
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