Assem Allam on meeting with supporters re name change.

[Smug in Boots]

On the link, I think it explains the discussions that have taken place with the league, which show it isn't cut and dried. If it isn't on the link, it's on a few of the other threads. They authorities are unclear on what the procedure is for a name change, but they're not supportive of it in principle and are not supportive of the chairmans actions so far.

Of course they could change their mind, hence the campaign from fans of this and other Clubs.

IMO, it's a done deal and people are simply humouring the supporters as they always do.

Pretending to listen to the earnest concerns of supporters, while tying up the loose ends in secret, is the oldest trick in the book, I'm afraid.

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

Richard Scudamore on Portsmouth's demise
"Every club has to be allowed to speculate and only the directors of clubs can assess, ultimately, the risk they are prepared to take if a Premier League club goes into administration then it can only be down to rank bad management. And I stand by that."
Scudamore identified Fulham's success as an example of why club directors and owners should be allowed a large degree of autonomy.
"Fulham are a smallish club that has achieved a success beyond anything the Fulham supporters 15 years ago could have imagined. It's unsustainable on its own fan-base and commercial income without that benefactor funding – and I will protect to the nth degree the ability of Mohamed Al Fayed to do what he has done at Fulham."
He said that Fulham's recent Europa League triumph over Juventus was "as good as any evening English football has ever had" adding: "That is a product of our English football model and it's not one that you have got with an overly regulated, overly bureaucratic, tight-down, centrist, controlled system."

Reckon thats what he'll do with us. Money money money its all the Scudamore is there for

 

[DMD]

I'm speaking entirely for myself now as other people's views may differ.

Personally I'd do what I did with the badge change, the naming of the stadium, the shirt designs, the 'entrance music', the shirt sponsors and all the rest .......... totally ignore it.

I know exactly what Sunderland means to me, my family who came before me and my sons who'll outlive me.
I've seen owners, managers, players and staff come and go but I'm still there.

Your club in in your heart & soul, not on a balance sheet or a company directive.

Bollocks to it all, Sky, stupid kick off times and all the bullshit .......... my policy is clear. Go to the game, have a few pints with decent people, sing and act like a madman if we score.

That's all there is, you can't fight these people so just enjoy the bits you like and **** the rest.
Don't waste a season in the top league fretting about meetings, campaigns and boycotts.

Previous campaigns by our fans against chairmen and the authorities have been successful. We also have help, support and advice from others with experience.

 

[Smug in Boots]

This is how I feel, I'm not for a name change, but it's the owners prerogative to change the name. I know we are Hull City, everyone else knows we are Hull City.

Is the prerogative spelling correct? I've never seen it written down and it looks really strange!?

It's one of those words that always looks wrong because most people don't pronounce it as it's spelled ...... or should that be spelt

 

[Smug in Boots]

Previous campaigns by our fans against chairmen and the authorities have been successful. Which?

We also have help, support and advice from others with experience.

Who?

 

[look_back_in_amber]

Lol He is a conniving stubborn little **** isn't he. Fair play to him to be honest. I know it's not funny but I'm laughing at how he's played us all.

Not all

 

[DMD]

IMO, it's a done deal and people are simply humouring the supporters as they always do.

Pretending to listen to the earnest concerns of supporters, while tying up the loose ends in secret, is the oldest trick in the book, I'm afraid.

It possibly looks that way to anyone just glancing in. The reality is the campaign has already had some success. It's also running with a background of previous successes.

In any event, it's not in our nature to roll over and be tickled, so doing nothing isn't really an option. That would be the worse thing for the Club and the City in the long run.

 

[Obadiah]

I find that rule more in favour of allams than anyone:

A Club competing in any one of The Premier League, The Football League, The Football Conference, the Southern Football League, the Isthmian League and the Northern Premier League shall not be permitted to change its playing name (i.e. the name under which the Club competes in a Competition), as recorded on Form “A”, save with the prior written permission of Council. Any application for a change of playing name must be received by The Association before 1st April in any calendar year in order for it to be considered by Council for adoption in the following playing season. Council will use its absolute discretion in deciding whether to approve a change in a Club’s playing name

nothing to do with fans there , and these are your quoted rules ..

You said that it had nothing to do with the FA, I've shown that it has by pointing out the rule. The club's name is Hull City Tigers is in breach of that rule, as I'm sure you'll readily admit. So what are the Premier League and the FA going to do about it? As I've said before I've got no idea, but I think we'll find out sooner rather than later.

 

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Previous campaigns by our fans against chairmen and the authorities have been successful. We also have help, support and advice from others with experience.

in what league .. about what ? ... please remind me ... and hope it equats to £60mill a year please while your at it ... Chazz has it spot on above your post .. we will be the prem leagues new "toy" to try new marketing options

 

[Smug in Boots]

It possibly looks that way to anyone just glancing in. The reality is the campaign has already had some success. It's also running with a background of previous successes.

In any event, it's not in our nature to roll over and be tickled, so doing nothing isn't really an option. That would be the worse thing for the Club and the City in the long run.

I just don't see it that way, I think it's a forgone conclusion.

What success have 'you' had?

 

[DMD]

Who?

Numerous fan groups, politicians, the FSF.

Previous campaigns have been against previous chairmen, some of whom ended up in prison as a consequence. There was also the recent campaign against WYP.

 

[DMD]

I just don't see it that way, I think it's a forgone conclusion.

What success have 'you' had?

Read the link.

 

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You said that it had nothing to do with the FA, I've shown that it has by pointing out the rule. The club's name is Hull City Tigers is in breach of that rule, as I'm sure you'll readily admit. So what are the Premier League and the FA going to do about it? As I've said before I've got no idea, but I think we'll find out sooner rather than later.

yes the club has been hull city tigers since early this year ... accounts wise .. therefore they are not lying ...

you really think that statement was relating to the playing name (in England) .. ? ... my word .. if you are an example of the CTWD group no wonder it has lost .. you are dealing with businessmen and more importantly very clever legal teams behind them before they say a word ... man against mouse I am afraid

 

[Smug in Boots]

Read the link.

Can't you just summarise?

It's very easy to be vague and say 'numerous fans groups' and 'support & advice' but, in reality that means little.

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

I just don't see it that way, I think it's a forgone conclusion.

What success have 'you' had?

What is your interest?

 

[Obadiah]

IMO, it's a done deal and people are simply humouring the supporters as they always do.

Pretending to listen to the earnest concerns of supporters, while tying up the loose ends in secret, is the oldest trick in the book, I'm afraid.

He hasn't tied up the loose ends in private. He's put two fingers up to the FA and the Premier League and treated them as if they don't matter. If it was a done, or nearly done, deal he'd have quiet, put his application in and counting the money from a second season in the premier league.

If you do know some rich men, how many announce to the world a deal before they have signed all the contracts.

 

[DMD]

Can't you just summarise?

No. The link words it far better and is really only a summary itself.

 

[look_back_in_amber]

I said before the meeting that people had the wrong idea about it's purpose.

Assem Allam was going through due process as part of the operation to change the club name. No more no less.

I said similar, something like he was donating three hours of his time in return for the ability to tick that box! It wasn't that difficult to see through the game that he was playing, in saying that all due respect should go to those that got off their arses in an attempt to derail his master plan.

 

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He hasn't tied up the loose ends in private. He's put two fingers up to the FA and the Premier League and treated them as if they don't matter. If it was a done, or nearly done, deal he'd have quiet, put his application in and counting the money from a second season in the premier league.

If you do know some rich men, how many announce to the world a deal before they have signed all the contracts.

but he hasn't , he has made a statement about the club name (not playing name) .. hull city tigers has been there since march / april last year ... simple confusion tactics ... it seems the only ones its confused are the protest group ... .. job done by the allams in that respect

 

[Smug in Boots]

What is your interest?

I'm a football supporter and this is a football forum.