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I suppose that people will always want to believe what they choose despite what is being said. EG Sunderland are a selling club that is how the model works. The reality is KS has stated on more than 1 occasion that we are not a selling club and that we are a club looking to build for the future and he also has stated that we have no need to sell players but will do business if it is right for both parties IE player and club.
Even now we have guys on here saying things like Clark will be sold if the club need the money and I wouldn't let him go even if he wanted to go when the truth is that decision is more of a mutual agreement if it was to happen but people continually think the decisions are solely the clubs and they hold all the cards but in this day and age that is not wholly true any more.

The Clarke situation is a good test of how fans will react IF he is sold this window. I am fairly relaxed about him going as i honestly believe the money would the be used to improve the starting 11 in more than 1 position.

I use the Liverpool selling Coutinho as the perfect example, Liverpool rinsed Barcelona for a huge amount of money when they sold him, but used that money to get in VVD, Salah and a few others that set them off towards the top of the league. I am fairly sure if you asked any Liverpool fan now if they think what the club did was fantastic business they would easily agree.

If he doesnt go then we enjoy him while he is here, if he goes then he goes with my best wishes as i love watching him play, but the bigger picture is far more important.
 
sadly, very true.

we just have to try and deprive them of the oxygen they thrive on.
Agreed. There’s a fine line between letting wind up merchants (those who are deliberately provocative) get away with comments and doing what they want - which is arguing and getting people riled. ‘Yeah, whatever’ is a good reply.

Top thread, btw. We need a lot of positivity and counting our numerous blessings to counter the recent hostility.
 
The main thing that I cant get my head around is the regular claims that we are buying on the cheap and selling our best players. Me personally, I'm surprised, up till now, at the reasonable amount we have spent on the squad overhaul and how few key players we have sold. Most teams in the Championship havnt got a pot to piss in nor have they the player assets that we have. Some clubs struggle through season after season with administration and points deductions hanging over them. How anybody can complain at our plight on this front totally baffles me.
 
Haway man @Smug in Boots yer cant be playing this game man....fancy creating a post to gain 50+ likes....how some of us meant to catch up with this now:emoticon-0101-sadsm

Totally right mate...were in a decent position in the league, obviously top 2 has gone, but it appears were actively after additions with what appears to be a flex in 'the model'.....not happy with certain parts in truth for me only the BCB being open & BCB decoration.

Fans moving i dont see how there was a choice, someone would be moving, same as if there had been a replay mags would be moving. Best comment in the seat move was talking with out mutual friend on way to Rotherham on train...my mate said ...i didnt hear people twist last year in cup against Mansfield as only the east stand was open

Whats done is done, i hope the club learn from & things like ticket office need to be accelerated

However RIGHT NOW people have the choice to moan like bitches (no offence meant to any bitches) or get on with it.....if people choose the moaning route it comes with a warning of its far from helpful, we have seen what this club can achieve when up against it...when were all behind & pulling in the right direction.....lets get behind the club & see how far we can get with a promotion challenge

Stuff you have mentioned is exactly why i dont do social media, never have, here is as far as i get, i dont get it, there are to many people just want to argue, have go, call each other xyz....then physically see each other....'alright mate not seen you for ages' wtf is that about....know others have mentioned coming off social media, out of lads drink with most are on, about half dozen arnt...they post on social media about arranging nights out....then forward that via text to the old fashioned ones... although not old ones

You see all this pole for this pole for that....if anyone wants to create a pole this is the one for me:

Are you a winging fxcker?
Are you a negative fxcker?
Do you want KLD out?
Are you a season ticket holder?
If not do you go to any games?

Seriously no owner is perfect....who do people think is going to buy club if KLD was forced out. Someone like the prince who owns Sheff Utd? A prime minister like City had previously? Rich yanks like Birmingham, get Rooney in? Countless owners throwing all have at it like Wigan? Russia like Everton, spend some proper money to improve? Yank like Chelsea, Dreamland spending billion plus on players?

It would appear though that progress can be made by selling your sole to murderers/terrorists..... shouting & waling, what do they want....or like children in a tantrum....they dont know when asked.....'just just better than this'

Right now for me....were progressing in right route playing side, awful lot to do in background.....BUT i never want to revisit the last PL years through to KLDs arrival at the club

ONLY real choice is to KTF.....& Our chances are better than they have been in a long long time in heading toward a stable period
This, great post.

Time to look forward to Saturday's game and ignore all the negative noise.

Hhhaaawwwwaaaaayyyyyyy the lads
 
Having just finished Sir Bob's book and seeing what he did for the club in a new light and respect, I think KLD is going about running it the same way. He decided to get it right on the pitch first to generate interest with the fans and imo it's the most important part of the club. Yes off the pitch isn't great but if they have been spending money redoing the AOL then it'll be "one of if those jobs on the list". Doing forget that there will be legacy contracts left over from Laurel and Hardy that needs to expire before it can be tackled. Maybe it won't all be done as quickly as we like but I do believe it will be completed.

As for the fan base, the amount of posts I've seen on the likes of FB, having a go at the club beggars belief. The club are going to do things we don't agree with and yes we will post things to vent steam but at times it does cross the line. I do believe that KLD has the best interests of the club at heart and he would've put this across to both KS and members running the club off the pitch. We as fans need to trust him and be patient
 
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Tony Mowbray on the rumours of why he left Sunderland

‘I didn’t have input on players, I will have an input here, I won’t go into meetings saying ‘don’t sign him’. It is ultimately my philosophy, we obviously need players to suit that.‘

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This feels the same as the reason Neil left us. I really hope this model we have is the way forward, because im not gonna lie, im beginning to feel very doubtful
 
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Tony Mowbray on the rumours of why he left Sunderland

‘I didn’t have input on players, I will have an input here, I won’t go into meetings saying ‘don’t sign him’. It is ultimately my philosophy, we obviously need players to suit that.‘

[HASHTAG]#BCFC[/HASHTAG] || @EverythingBCFC

This feels the same as the reason Neil left us. I really hope this model we have is the way forward, because im not gonna lie, im beginning to feel very doubtful
1.42 PPG with Mowbray this season, 1.85 PPG without him. Mowbray was the problem and I personally am happy to see the back of him and his whinging and tactical stubbornness.

Oh and it went so great for Neil without the support system we have here didn't it? Bet he is so glad he left to gain all the power at Stoke.
 
1.42 PPG with Mowbray this season, 1.85 PPG without him. Mowbray was the problem and I personally am happy to see the back of him and his whinging and tactical stubbornness.

Whinging? When did he ever whinge? We had zero strikers the back end of last season and he nearly got us promoted and with no fit CBs aswell. I never heard him moan once?
 
Whinging? When did he ever whinge? We had zero strikers the back end of last season and no fit CBs and i never heard him moan once?
Really? Nearly every press conference both this season and last season he has whinged about something, yet we are picking up more points without him.
 
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1.42 PPG with Mowbray this season, 1.85 PPG without him. Mowbray was the problem and I personally am happy to see the back of him and his whinging and tactical stubbornness.

Oh and it went so great for Neil without the support system we have here didn't it? Bet he is so glad he left to gain all the power at Stoke.

Once Neil had a say in signings Stoke plummeted towards relegation ...

... Mowbray worked with some of the best young players he's ever likely to at Sunderland.

He knew the deal when he signed and took the money.
 
1.42 PPG with Mowbray this season, 1.85 PPG without him. Mowbray was the problem and I personally am happy to see the back of him and his whinging and tactical stubbornness.

Oh and it went so great for Neil without the support system we have here didn't it? Bet he is so glad he left to gain all the power at Stoke.

Im not bothered about Neil, im just mentioning him because this was also the reason he left us apparently.
Of course he'll regret it now, hes had a fecking nightmare at Stoke.

Mogga was sacked though for voicing his concerns, Neil thought the grass was greener at Stoke. I cant help but feel abit concerned and disheartened with how this past 6 months have gone.
 
Really? Nearly every press conference both this season and last season he has whinged about something, yet we are picking up more points without him.

He got sacked a month ago, how can you look at stats so soon ffs?
I can honestly say i cant recall him ever moaning, he had a smile on his face every press conference i saw him
 
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Tony Mowbray on the rumours of why he left Sunderland

‘I didn’t have input on players, I will have an input here, I won’t go into meetings saying ‘don’t sign him’. It is ultimately my philosophy, we obviously need players to suit that.‘

[HASHTAG]#BCFC[/HASHTAG] || @EverythingBCFC

This feels the same as the reason Neil left us. I really hope this model we have is the way forward, because im not gonna lie, im beginning to feel very doubtful

he knew he wouldn’t be picking players when he came and he was happy with the model until he got sussed out and couldn’t change his tactics, then all of a sudden we needed experience.

I’m glad he’s gone, he did better then expected and then fell off like expected.
 
he knew he wouldn’t be picking players when he came and he was happy with the model until he got sussed out and couldn’t change his tactics, then all of a sudden we needed experience.

I’m glad he’s gone, he did better then expected and then fell off like expected.

Because we all see it and say it daily on here. We need an experienced CDM and a striker thats actually played in the UK before, speaks the language etc.. It must have been pretty frustrating for him tbf having a squad of inexperienced kids to manage and nurish ready to sell on for a profit
 
Because we all see it and say it daily on here. We need an experienced CDM and a striker thats actually played in the UK before, speaks the language etc.. It must have been pretty frustrating for him tbf having a squad of inexperienced kids to manage and nurish ready to sell on for a profit

rusyn isn’t a kid tho and already proved he will score he just couldn’t find a way to change it and get them scoring.

Mowbray is just using excuses to make himself sound better hopefully with him having control he will come and get his boy dack.
 
rusyn isn’t a kid tho and already proved he will score he just couldn’t find a way to change it and get them scoring.

Mowbray is just using excuses to make himself sound better hopefully with him having control he will come and get his boy dack.

He cant speak English and never played in the UK before. Our season has severely been affected waiting for kids to adjust to the Championship. We should have had a striker and a CDM sihned and not have Neil as our only experienced CM on only his 3rd full season