2017 Driver Lineup

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you get a lot of return from Button, he's smooth and steady, if you give him a decent car you'll get a decent result, definitely a step up from Raikonnen
 
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you get a lot of return from Button, he's smooth and steady, if you give him a decent car you'll get a decent result, definitely a step up from Raikonnen

Yes, that's fine but only if the car is working in a very narrow operating window. Is smooth style doesn't work where either the car/tyres/circuit do not generate enough heat, in which case he is not quick enough. He's too old for Ferrari now anyway (who thought we'd say that about Button!) so see no reason why Ferrari would want to invest any money in him.

They have Vettel as their no.1 experienced driver, so would be better off looking out for the next potential big thing.
 
Problem with Ferrari is that they don't like inexperience. Vettel was their youngest signing since the 70s, many other 4x wdc champs around?
 
Problem with Ferrari is that they don't like inexperience. Vettel was their youngest signing since the 70s, many other 4x wdc champs around?

Younger than Massa was?

Grosjean must be in with a shout if he continues to impress in the Haas. Other than that, can't really see who else they would go for who aren't a) contracted to Red Bull for all of enternity or b) look good enough to be a Ferrari driver.
 
If I was running a team I'd rather have Button as my second driver than Verstappen. People thinking inexperience is more valuable than experience have got it arse backwards. Ferrari would have the best driver line up on the grid next season if they hired Button, and partnership which would work very well together, that's the most important thing. Ferrari don't need to have a second driver to replace Vettel, if Vettel goes then they hire Ricciardo or Hamilton.
 
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If I was running a team I'd rather have Button as my second driver than Verstappen. People thinking inexperience is more valuable than experience have got it arse backwards. Ferrari would have the best driver line up on the grid next season if they hired Button, and partnership which would work very well together, that's the most important thing. Ferrari don't need to have a second driver to replace Vettel, if Vettel goes then they hire Ricciardo or Hamilton.

I'm not sure about that... Red Bull had Vettel at an early age and look what he delivered. If you're not looking to bring in and develop the best new young drivers then you're always going to be chasing your tail and missing out while others are winning titles with them.
 
I'm not sure about that... Red Bull had Vettel at an early age and look what he delivered. If you're not looking to bring in and develop the best new young drivers then you're always going to be chasing your tail and missing out while others are winning titles with them.

And then he moved to Ferrari. Ferrari wouldn't have been any better off if they'd signed Vettel for the 2009 season and still had him now, in fact Vettel would almost certainly not be a world champion right now and driving for another team.
 
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Younger than Massa was?

Grosjean must be in with a shout if he continues to impress in the Haas. Other than that, can't really see who else they would go for who aren't a) contracted to Red Bull for all of enternity or b) look good enough to be a Ferrari driver.

I've been confusing my stats! It was no one under the age of 25 (Massa was 25) since the 70s. Vettel was 27 when he joined I think.

As a bit of a left field punt, could Ferrari go after Rosberg? Quick guy who shouldn't bother Vettel too much, and also might know a think or two about Mercedes? An engineer would know far more but still....
 
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I've been confusing my stats! It was no one under the age of 25 (Massa was 25) since the 70s. Vettel was 27 when he joined I think.

As a bit of a left field punt, could Ferrari go after Rosberg? Quick guy who shouldn't bother Vettel too much, and also might know a think or two about Mercedes? An engineer would know far more but still....

Ah, Massa was older than I thought, forgot he was blooded at Sauber for a few years first.

If Rosberg feels he may not get the recognition he deserves from Mercedes then he could jump to Ferrari, but is he then jumping into 'Team Vettel' and may have the same issues?

Would a better move be to RBR alongside Verstappen (assuming he stays and RIC moves on). Can then be undisputed team leader?
 
And then he moved to Ferrari. Ferrari wouldn't have been any better off if they'd signed Vettel for the 2009 season and still had him now, in fact Vettel would almost certainly not be a world champion right now and driving for another team.

I get what you're saying, but Ferrari barely missed out on a couple of titles at the hands of Vettel during that period. Beaten by a good car and a very good driver. By the time they get this car right, who knows who will have arrived on the scene and be giving them a new headache to react to.

Having somebody in now to learn from Vettel and to potentially push him could only be good for the long term. Ferrari always seem to be playing catch up on all sides in recent years.
 
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One things for certain, it's not likely to be Verstappen in a Ferrari next season after this weekend!

Rosberg's new deal at Mercedes is pretty much done and dusted from what Ted Kravitz was told.
 
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Rumours in the Italian press that Ferrari are in discussions with Rosberg for 2017, and Alonso could replace him.
 
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I think Alonso is only being touted so as to tell Rosberg to play ball, it's not a serious suggestion it's just to warn him off trying to pull a fast one in negotiations.
 
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Pascal very much has his head screwed on. Maybe he knows something about Nico or Lewis that we don't. Maybe Toto has already set him up.

In terms of Alonso, it's a long shot with him trying Mercedes but Mclaren are improving all the time so whats the point.
 
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I think EMSC has taken up Cosmic Ordering. :p

Early stages of silly season, bite me <laugh>

Chris will say it's my deep desire to eject the driver former driver. I would say both aren't anything too special. In terms of driving ability or off track popularity.:afro: