Omur must be wondering why the **** he let Acun talk him in to coming. Bet he can’t wait to escape in January. Probably at a loss to us.
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Giles and Omur have made the WhoScored Championship Worst XI so far this season.
Ömür’s the bigger disappointment because he actually tries and it’s evident he has quality but we rarely see it and nothing ever comes off for him. I knew Giles was gutless when he ducked under a header at Elland Road last season instead of clearing it, which led to a goal.
Omur needs to play central. And given a free role on the ball. He does enough without it. He doesn’t become a bad player overnight. Technically excellent, it’s more of a failing of the hierarchy and set up he’s not doing any good.
I agree he's better than we're currently seeing, and he does graft even when he's not playing particularly well, but think there's always been a question mark over his end-product considering his undoubted technical ability, even when playing in the Turkish league.
Does anyone think he’s had a decent run in his preferred position centrally?
He should have had a good run this season
He should have had a good run this season
It's just a case of people believing players are better when they aren't playing.
He's had plenty of games/opportunities for us and he's consistently shown his end product is poor.
Kasey's shown he's a better option
Omur was very good last season, all we have to do is get Carvalho and Tufan back and he’ll be very good again this season. Easy.
I disagree that he was very good
I remember me and plt being the only ones who thought so
Good 5 a side player though
Probably
I think he look good last season but still not much end product. How many did he score/assist
From what’s coming out about him generally it seems it’s a **** mix of radical tactics and poor man management on his part. Which is really odd given he came from Bayern’s youth set up
He ‘looked’ good last season because he worked hard off the ball and got stuck into tackles which was a welcome surprise given his stature. I was half-expecting him to be one of those lazy, mercurial number 10s who didn’t track back, a bit like Ben Arfa. He’s also a good dribbler, has a good first touch and other technical attributes.
The biggest disappointment about him is that, whilst he’s surprisingly good at the stuff I didn’t expect of him, he’s also not shown enough of the things I was expecting of him. His end product leaves a lot to be desired. I was expecting him cut in from the right and shoot with his left like Hutchinson at Ipswich or if we played him centrally, look to run at defenders and play that decisive pass into one of the wingers or striker through on goal. He’s just not done that, or done it consistently enough. He didn’t do it last season either but looked decent in a team full of other decent players. Now that the likes of Tufan, Carvalho, Philogene, Seri etc. are gone, he was expected to pick up the mantle and be that creative, goal-scoring midfielder/winger. We all expected him to be one of our best players in the absence of the aforementioned ones from last season and he just hasn’t. He’s struggled to make an impact in a much poorer team.
The biggest disappointment about him is that, whilst he’s surprisingly good at the stuff I didn’t expect of him, he’s also not shown enough of the things I was expecting of him. His end product leaves a lot to be desired. I was expecting him cut in from the right and shoot with his left like Hutchinson at Ipswich or if we played him centrally, look to run at defenders and play that decisive pass into one of the wingers or striker through on goal. He’s just not done that, or done it consistently enough. He didn’t do it last season either but looked decent in a team full of other decent players. Now that the likes of Tufan, Carvalho, Philogene, Seri etc. are gone, he was expected to pick up the mantle and be that creative, goal-scoring midfielder/winger. We all expected him to be one of our best players in the absence of the aforementioned ones from last season and he just hasn’t. He’s struggled to make an impact in a much poorer team.
Yeah I was pleasantly surprised by that too
Not seen much of that this season though (maybe he was under instructions to do differently though)
He’s still shown tenacity when he’s played this season but our pressing has been quite poor and disjointed in general. Players are often pressing in isolation and not as a unit. Pedro often presses on his own and runs deeper than the midfielders to close down which tells you everything you need to know. If the sole striker is pressing high then runs back past the entire midfield when we lose the ball then something is seriously wrong. Players just aren’t closing down quick enough during transition. That goal Watford scored was a farce. Slater and Mehlem both half-arsed it and didn’t attempt to win the ball back with any purpose.
We’ve lacked tenacity in general. We seem to pick up enough silly bookings but can’t make a tactical foul and clatter someone far away from the box when they counter us. Rodri does it brilliantly for Man City and from what I’ve seen of them this season, they have the same issue when he doesn’t play. His influence on and off the ball is game-changing.
I didn't ever think he wasn't good. I thought people were a bit over the top in their praise for him in spite of him never scoring or assisting, but his talent was obvious.
Now I think people have gone completely the other way (which I said they would if he continued to not score or assist). I'm still hoping that Selles in time finds a way to get productivity out of him because he's far too good to leave sat on the bench every week. Same sort of thing with Giles.
He certainly didn’t look it on Saturday. I wasn’t impressed by his first few appearances but thought he’d turned a corner after Walter left and he was given a free role but he was poor again at the weekend and you’d have expected him to be on it against his former club.