Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham United

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Roo said:
I couldn't give a **** about the "title race". As far as I'm concerned there hasn't been one.
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As far as I'm concerned there absolutely has and I'm proud that we were a part of it. It would've taken a Titanic **** up from Chelsea with 10 games to go but they started to wobble and we kept chasing.

It's really disappointing not to push them further and a really disappointing performance tonight but I'm far happier with this kind of disappointment than wondering whether or not we could just about nick 4th, which was the sum of our ambitions prior to last season.
 
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I didn't like Dier's tone in the post match interview. Too quiet and sulky. Those boys need to hold their heads up and keep on pushing no matter what. If they quit now, they've learned nothing!

That dressing room needs a Roy Keane figure to grab them by the scruff of the necks and push them on. Tell them to man up and keep fighting.

Never quit no matter what otherwise we're just the same old Spurs.
 
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Spurlock said:
A bit of a weird performance...did they freeze again when it mattered most? That's my question after this game.


I just hope we can keep the team together, even though we were all saying it's Chelsea's to lose, which it was but the hope was still there. Hope gone now, we must consolidate 2nd
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I don't think the team froze. I think West Ham were very good tactically and Poch got his wrong.

We've got champions league football again, and we're clearly growing as a club.
We need to show some intent now and sign a quality player or two that show the other players that we mean business next season.

If every fan was baffled my the Sissoko transfer, surely the players thought the same? We now need to cut this out. The only weakness at the club now is some of the ludicrous, expensive transfer dealings.
 
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I don't think it was losing our bottle. We played just as badly at Liverpool. Manchester clubs play badly but nobody in the media says that they've bottled. It happens. We must concentrate now on staying second. It doesn't help of course when all the media are selling our players and telling us that we will struggle at Wembley It definitely affected Walker. It may be best that he goes now, but not for a paltry £35 mill. If City paid nearly £50 mill for Stones they should pay at least that for Walker. That would buy us Sessegnon and Tielemans.
 
You are 2nd in the table, and you had a full week to prepare against a side with nothing to play for, who are well below you.

There really is no excuse for me, those are the type of games that have to be certain wins if your going to be champions.

Let's not dress it up any other way, yes the title may well have already been gone, but you'll never know now as you've not applied the pressure you should have to Chelsea.
 
No Kane No Gain said:
As far as I'm concerned there absolutely has and I'm proud that we were a part of it. It would've taken a Titanic **** up from Chelsea with 10 games to go but they started to wobble and we kept chasing.

It's really disappointing not to push them further and a really disappointing performance tonight but I'm far happier with this kind of disappointment than wondering whether or not we could just about nick 4th, which was the sum of our ambitions prior to last season.
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I see what you're saying, but for me, a title race needs to have both teams closer in terms of points, and potentially overtaking one another. We were miles behind Chelsea and have done brilliantly to close the gap, but it's hardly been uncomfortable for them.
 
Roo said:
I see what you're saying, but for me, a title race needs to have both teams closer in terms of points, and potentially overtaking one another. We were miles behind Chelsea and have done brilliantly to close the gap, but it's hardly been uncomfortable for them.
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And you don't think getting to within 1 point of them tonight might have made it just a little bit uncomfortable for them?
 
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Now...as you all know, I am not prone to negativity but I feel I must make a point or two.
1) No one played well tonight, including the subs.
2) Pochettino was out done tactically by Bilic for the 3rd match in a row. I know we won in November but we kind of got lucky.
3) We were out fought all over the pitch.
4) We changed things too late.
5) The changes made us look panicked and desperate in the way they changed our shape.
The result and the performance was a reflection of all these things.

At the beginning of the season I would have happily accepted our season as it has been another step forward.

But if we are to progress to winning trophies...imho that's the only way to progress next season...we need to win a trophy.

There will accusations of us having no bottle but the Arsenal, Palace, Swansea results all show that to be false.

I am gutted by tonights performance but if it serves to teach Pochettino and our players valuable lessons and proves to who ever controls our transfers that we need greater quality then it'll be as positive next season as the end of last season was to this one.

COYS
 
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Roo said:
I see what you're saying, but for me, a title race needs to have both teams closer in terms of points, and potentially overtaking one another. We were miles behind Chelsea and have done brilliantly to close the gap, but it's hardly been uncomfortable for them.
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It's not been a coin toss but up until their Everton win it was still up for grabs. Leagues don't always come down to the last day but there can still be more than one team in it. I don't see any sense in us trying to cover up the fact that we really have been up there competing at the top. I'm proud of it.
 
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Diego said:
And you don't think getting to within 1 point of them tonight might have made it just a little bit uncomfortable for them?
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Exactly. We also knew this was a PL cup final for the Spanners.
The moment that bus parking was the Spanner game plan, the
players need to front up immediately to score the first goal.

Today was a very complacent lazy performance where the team
seemed to believe the breakthrough would come soon enough.
 
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pabird said:
Small time ****e who turn up twice a year we must learn to compete against such parking of the bus
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That bus would never have passed its M.O.T, the brakes obviously didn't work because they spent a large part of the match rolling over you.
Did you see how high their back line was most of the time?
"parking the bus" has now become a euphemism for "they wouldn't let us score", the scousers use it a lot too <ok>
 
Having nothing on the bench doesn't help. It was Mousa, Trippier and a load of blokes that Mauricio Pochettino doesn't want.

Having Winks and Lamela would help but we are still sadly lacking in options when Son starts. It was the same in the S/F. If Sissoko, GKN and Vinnie were worth more than ten minutes when we are in front, we might not have had to chase down a ten point lead in the first place. We've still lost less than Chelsea. We need to win more a away games.

An interesting summer ahead.
 
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Sidney Fiddler said:
We were never going to catch the Chavs and we were due a crap performance by the law of averages.
Poch has produced pound for pound the best team in the premier. Know it's up to Levy to back him in the summer , no
half measures.

A sensible Sid
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Agreed <ok>
Do you think he is worried about having his best players sold out from under him by management like at Southampton and that's why he came out with his "see Mr Levy" quip?
 
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