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Phelan Out

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. GLP

    GLP Well-Known Member

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    When has Jak conceded 19 goals in 5 games? You're not wrong because you know it's true. Jakupovic looks like Gorden Banks compared to the hapless Marshall. Marshall isn't at all what I was expecting.
     
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    They'll finish mid table again. They were much better than people are giving them credit for.

    Look at what they've spent on people like Joe Allan and their front three. They've got Bojan on the bench ffs. And we've got Will Keane up front.

    Rather than us crucifying Keane, ask ourselves why we even had to sign him?
     
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    I used to play in goal for a really **** U12s team and we conceded loads every week. Even at that age people knew it wasn't always the keeper's fault and shared responsibility. I find it incredible that as grown ups we're seriously debating whether it's the keepers fault that we're ****, when he hasn't actually made a mistake yet, and in fact had a really good game yesterday.
     
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  4. HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)

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    To be fair, of those goals Marshall hasn't been at fault for many, most have come shambolic defending or great strikes. Not saying Marshall has been playing well but he's really been up against it these last few games.
     
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    He's made plenty of mistakes, there's no denying that but he's certainly not responsible for the amount of goals we've conceded that is the responsibility of the entire team.
     
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    Well I'm denying that. What mistakes has he made?
     
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    To be honest I was trying to decide if Jak could have saved it. I still can't make my mind up. I do think he wouldn't have ****ed up for Bournemouth's first last week though.
     
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    Good point. ALLAM's OUT
     
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    What, he wouldn't have dived for a free kick which hit the post and ended up on the floor? How on earth was that avoidable?
     
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    Poor positioning for Liverpools first goal, pulled out of the save when it hit the post and Bournemouth scored the rebound, very average distribution, failed to organise his wall yesterday.

    He's been given a tough run that even the best goalkeeper would struggle with but he's been far from perfect.
     
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    He pulled out of the save thinking it was going wide, I thought it at the time and the replays confirm it. He should have got his hands to it to make sure.
     
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    He didn't actually
    Totally agree. He didn't actually end up on the floor after 'diving' for it. I recall one of the commentators on the stream I was watching questioning why he didn't attempt to save it and came to the same conclusion as you.
     
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  13. originallambrettaman

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    There was nothing wrong with where the wall was yesterday, it just didn't do its job, Shawcross just knocked it over.
     
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    The point is he didn't dive did he. Look at it again. He thought it was going wide until it was too late.
     
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    Shawcross knocked into one defender, the rest were unaffected and made no attempt to jump.

    The call not to jump usually comes from the goal keeper, if the players jump he sees the ball later and it makes it harder to save, but there's a chance they can block it before it gets to him, its down to what the goalkeeper thinks will be more effective.

    They've just spoke about Marshall and the free-kick on Goals on Sunday and all agreed he was in the wrong position anyway.
     
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  16. Tony Angelino

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    We've got Keane because Phelan probably had the choice between him and no one. When we got relegated we'd probably spent more than the otheres that came down with us, despite what stoke spent (and they should be out spending us) they werent that good
     
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  17. originallambrettaman

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    Schwarzer on MOTD said he was correctly positioned and it was the fault of the wall and if they were waiting for someone to tell them to jump, it's no wonder they didn't didn't stop the ****er. <doh>
     
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    On Goals on Sunday they said he shouldn't have been stood there if he couldn't see the ball because it wouldn't give him enough time to react. Just shows how subjective football is, two sets of 'experts' and two completely different interpretations of the same thing! <laugh>
     
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    Were any of the 'experts' keepers?
     
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  20. Tony Angelino

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    MOTD was good, they didnt even talk about city...suppose that says it all
     
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