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Premier League attendances...
2008-09: 24,816
2009-10: 24,390
2013-14: 24,127
2014-15: 23,557
Tomorrow will be well under 20,000, probably 7,000 down on the last time we played Stoke in the Premier League (which was also televised), that's quite some achievement. [HASHTAG]#BusinessGenius[/HASHTAG]
2008-09: 24,816
2009-10: 24,390
2013-14: 24,127
2014-15: 23,557
Tomorrow will be well under 20,000, probably 7,000 down on the last time we played Stoke in the Premier League (which was also televised), that's quite some achievement. [HASHTAG]#BusinessGenius[/HASHTAG]
Everyone I've read was just asking questions, or making an amusing point; except you.
There will be a Gin Bar in every Stand. Hooters type serving staff. Mobile can/bottle bars going up and down the concourse. Chilli and Curry (made without curry powder) counters. All at reasonable prices. Bummers will be appointed head of MarComms. Oh and mirrors in the ladies.1787 marguex £200,000 it's like chaz in a bottle!
The second day in charge I'll have to have a think about.
Phil Buckingham's pulling no punches this morning...
Hull City's Premier League attendances hit new low – but problems lie deeper than current slump
MOST of the talk in the pubs and clubs surrounding the KCOM Stadium tomorrow afternoon will be of the latest twist in a takeover saga that has run, run and run some more.
Some, by now, will have grown weary of all the speculation and instead prefer to debate the decisions facing head coach Mike Phelan after last weekend's 6-1 loss at Bournemouth.
Barroom exchanges will rage just like every other weekend but another story will soon unfold once fans click through the turnstiles at the KCOM Stadium for the visit of Stoke City.
Tomorrow promises to be the day when the impact of the club's controversial membership scheme becomes crystal clear for the first time.
After hosting champions Leicester City, Manchester United, Arsenal and Chelsea during the opening two months of the season, the Tigers welcome an opponent that will struggle to put bums on seats. Stoke City are the first of the hard sells in the run up to Christmas, a sequence that also sees Southampton visit on a Sunday ahead of the Tigers hosting West Brom and Crystal Palace.
City were unavailable to provide a figure for tickets sold when approached yesterday but a club low in the top flight is guaranteed. The only question is how low. The 21,037 drawn for the opening weekend date with Leicester City stood as the club's lowest Premier League attendance, beating the 21,469 for a midweek fixture against Aston Villa in February 2015. The 2-0 defeat to Chelsea (21,257) two weeks ago also dipped below the previous tide mark.
With Stoke City expected to bring somewhere in the region of 1,700 supporters, a figure below the capacity allocation that followed the previous four visitors this season, tomorrow's attendance appears certain to fall beneath the 20,000 mark.
One visit to City's online ticketing site yesterday showed huge availability for a fixture designated as Category B, the club's middle band of pricing.
The northern half of the West Stand Upper has not been released for sale, while there are green dots representing currently empty seats were everywhere in the adjoining southern blocks.
More news: Hull City's Moses Odubajo ruled out for six months
Elsewhere in the ground there will be banks of empty seats in N3 and N4, the two blocks directly behind the goal in the North Stand.
The cheapest "zone one" areas of the ground, such as the south east and south west corners, will be close to capacity yet still had availability at the time of writing. A 6-1 loss at Bournemouth was always likely to knock a few of the crowd but surely not this many. The problems run much deeper.
Ehab Allam last commented on the merits of the membership scheme in his programme notes for the visit of Rotherham United on the final day of the season. The vice chairman called it a "new and revolutionary approach" and suggested it would "make football more affordable for the majority of fans."
Allam made a decent pitch but it has been clear City supporters were not buying it. At least not in the numbers typically associated with a season in the Premier League. At the start of the 2014-15 season the visit of Stoke attracted 24,348. That was the first home fixture in that Premier League season but it was also on a Sunday and played out in front of the TV cameras. A 2-0 win at home to Crystal Palace that October, a game of relative appeal to this weekend, also topped 24,000.
City's falling crowds are not just confined to this season, though. Publication of the club's official accounts this month revealed the average crowd for last season was just 14,676, rather than the game-by-game announced average of 17,199. For a club that spent almost the entire season in the top four of the Championship, the warning signs were clearly there.
There has been disenchantment building among City's fan base, as best illustrated by the banks of empty red seats at the Championship play-off final at Wembley, but the membership scheme and its flat pricing structures has accentuated the issue.
Tomorrow's visit of Stoke is not particularly expensive in modern Premier League terms (prices beginning at £18 and going no higher than £30) but that clearly remains too much for a good number of supporters.
More news: Mike Phelan 'wants ex-Manchester United coach' for his Hull City backroom staff
The removal of concessions continues to mark both a point of principle and a tipping point for the old and the young. Enough was clearly enough, no matter what division City are in.
It is still worth pointing out that there are winners in the 2016-17 membership scheme but one look around the KCOM Stadium at kick-off will tell you plenty of fans have been lost. The real verdict will come at 3pm tomorrow.
CITY'S AVERAGE CROWDS IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE
2008-09: 24,816
2009-10: 24,390
2013-14: 24,127
2014-15: 23,557
2016-17: 22,347 (after four games)
http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/hull...9827322-detail/story.html#pYLCvZXjvv2IT9Lo.99
Hull City's Premier League attendances hit new low – but problems lie deeper than current slump
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MOST of the talk in the pubs and clubs surrounding the KCOM Stadium tomorrow afternoon will be of the latest twist in a takeover saga that has run, run and run some more.
Some, by now, will have grown weary of all the speculation and instead prefer to debate the decisions facing head coach Mike Phelan after last weekend's 6-1 loss at Bournemouth.
Barroom exchanges will rage just like every other weekend but another story will soon unfold once fans click through the turnstiles at the KCOM Stadium for the visit of Stoke City.
Tomorrow promises to be the day when the impact of the club's controversial membership scheme becomes crystal clear for the first time.
After hosting champions Leicester City, Manchester United, Arsenal and Chelsea during the opening two months of the season, the Tigers welcome an opponent that will struggle to put bums on seats. Stoke City are the first of the hard sells in the run up to Christmas, a sequence that also sees Southampton visit on a Sunday ahead of the Tigers hosting West Brom and Crystal Palace.
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City were unavailable to provide a figure for tickets sold when approached yesterday but a club low in the top flight is guaranteed. The only question is how low. The 21,037 drawn for the opening weekend date with Leicester City stood as the club's lowest Premier League attendance, beating the 21,469 for a midweek fixture against Aston Villa in February 2015. The 2-0 defeat to Chelsea (21,257) two weeks ago also dipped below the previous tide mark.
With Stoke City expected to bring somewhere in the region of 1,700 supporters, a figure below the capacity allocation that followed the previous four visitors this season, tomorrow's attendance appears certain to fall beneath the 20,000 mark.
One visit to City's online ticketing site yesterday showed huge availability for a fixture designated as Category B, the club's middle band of pricing.
The northern half of the West Stand Upper has not been released for sale, while there are green dots representing currently empty seats were everywhere in the adjoining southern blocks.
More news: Hull City's Moses Odubajo ruled out for six months
Elsewhere in the ground there will be banks of empty seats in N3 and N4, the two blocks directly behind the goal in the North Stand.
The cheapest "zone one" areas of the ground, such as the south east and south west corners, will be close to capacity yet still had availability at the time of writing. A 6-1 loss at Bournemouth was always likely to knock a few of the crowd but surely not this many. The problems run much deeper.
Ehab Allam last commented on the merits of the membership scheme in his programme notes for the visit of Rotherham United on the final day of the season. The vice chairman called it a "new and revolutionary approach" and suggested it would "make football more affordable for the majority of fans."
Allam made a decent pitch but it has been clear City supporters were not buying it. At least not in the numbers typically associated with a season in the Premier League. At the start of the 2014-15 season the visit of Stoke attracted 24,348. That was the first home fixture in that Premier League season but it was also on a Sunday and played out in front of the TV cameras. A 2-0 win at home to Crystal Palace that October, a game of relative appeal to this weekend, also topped 24,000.
You must log in or register to see images
City's falling crowds are not just confined to this season, though. Publication of the club's official accounts this month revealed the average crowd for last season was just 14,676, rather than the game-by-game announced average of 17,199. For a club that spent almost the entire season in the top four of the Championship, the warning signs were clearly there.
There has been disenchantment building among City's fan base, as best illustrated by the banks of empty red seats at the Championship play-off final at Wembley, but the membership scheme and its flat pricing structures has accentuated the issue.
Tomorrow's visit of Stoke is not particularly expensive in modern Premier League terms (prices beginning at £18 and going no higher than £30) but that clearly remains too much for a good number of supporters.
More news: Mike Phelan 'wants ex-Manchester United coach' for his Hull City backroom staff
The removal of concessions continues to mark both a point of principle and a tipping point for the old and the young. Enough was clearly enough, no matter what division City are in.
It is still worth pointing out that there are winners in the 2016-17 membership scheme but one look around the KCOM Stadium at kick-off will tell you plenty of fans have been lost. The real verdict will come at 3pm tomorrow.
CITY'S AVERAGE CROWDS IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE
2008-09: 24,816
2009-10: 24,390
2013-14: 24,127
2014-15: 23,557
2016-17: 22,347 (after four games)
http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/hull...9827322-detail/story.html#pYLCvZXjvv2IT9Lo.99
The northern half of the West Stand Upper has not been released for sale, while there are green dots representing currently empty seats were everywhere in the adjoining southern blocks.
I do wish HDM would employ a proof reader. I hardly read anything on there that doesn't have a bit that makes no sense.
I do wish HDM would employ a proof reader. I hardly read anything on there that doesn't have a bit that makes no sense.
A great article.
I think there's more staying away due to their principles than is given credit for.
There's definitely new supporters making the attendances better, if relegated they'll stop going, I know some, good luck to them.
The Allams have pushed much of the fan base too far. Many have had different trigger points, unfortunately there have been too many triggers.
They consider the fans as customers, have treated them as customers & provided, at best, shoddy customer care & service for far too long. Because of this fans are now acting like customers & taking their custom elsewhere.
We're playing Stoke tomorrow, a team local to me & of interest. I'll be in Hull for the day, with others. Our custom will be going into the tills of the local pubs during game time, that's sad. My choice, but sad all the same. I'm still happy with the choice I make, but not happy at having to have made it. A membership scheme that doesn't recognise kids or pensioners was a step too far for me, I won't be back until it does.
I think many will return when the problem, & their half baked ideas have gone for good. I also think many others will have been lost for good.
I think there's more staying away due to their principles than is given credit for.
There's definitely new supporters making the attendances better, if relegated they'll stop going, I know some, good luck to them.
The Allams have pushed much of the fan base too far. Many have had different trigger points, unfortunately there have been too many triggers.
They consider the fans as customers, have treated them as customers & provided, at best, shoddy customer care & service for far too long. Because of this fans are now acting like customers & taking their custom elsewhere.
We're playing Stoke tomorrow, a team local to me & of interest. I'll be in Hull for the day, with others. Our custom will be going into the tills of the local pubs during game time, that's sad. My choice, but sad all the same. I'm still happy with the choice I make, but not happy at having to have made it. A membership scheme that doesn't recognise kids or pensioners was a step too far for me, I won't be back until it does.
I think many will return when the problem, & their half baked ideas have gone for good. I also think many others will have been lost for good.
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I doubt they have any support after the membership debacle. It goes against everything society should stand for. Look after the young and the old.
Not been posted on here but AA has just given a load of cash for a new birthing suite at HRI, like the one they have at Castle Hill.
My mrs had our third at Castle hill and had to be rushed to HRI and i nearly lost her. This will give better facilities to the people of Hull and it'll be safer too. How can they do brilliant stuff like this and do a membership scheme like that. Madness.
It is madness Chazz. The good they do around the area is admirable. It would be interesting to see their reaction should they ever "fall out" with one of their many good causes.
I think they work in extremes & thrive on adulation. As long as things are going their way they're top blokes & will do owt for those involved. But if you challenge them in any way or say no to them then you become an enemy.
The name change came about because HCC said no to their proposed development. Subsequent treatment of supporters came about because the name change was successfully challenged. It's all taken as a personal insult by them & as such they seek retribution & revenge.
They never see or recognise the value or principle of a middle ground, a secondary point of view or the consequences their decisions may have on others & that will always lead to problems, no matter who you are or whatever line of business you're in.
I'm always wary of people who give to charities or other good causes but tell you that they have done so. He gets a lot of publicity from the Allam lecture theatre, the Allam unit at a hospital or the Allam squash tournament or whatever. I'm afraid it reminds me of someone else who told the world about how great he was for doing charity and hospital work. He had a children's television program a few years ago. Another one wants to be President of the USA.
These sort of people just want to see their name up in lights and are happy to spend their fortune on such self-publicity.
These sort of people just want to see their name up in lights and are happy to spend their fortune on such self-publicity.
They can spend as much as they like on whatever charities they like for me along with getting their names attached to as many lecture theatres & hospital wards as they want. I'm sure the people who are still alive because of it will also be happy for them to carry on.
As much as I think they've acted like complete ****s & bellends where City is concerned comparing them to Jimmy Savile for their charity work is ****ing stupid & reprehensible.
Our potential new owner (the one on the right obviously)...
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Undoubtedly the decline has a lot to do with the way that the Allams have been running the club and the increasing alienation of the supporters. I think the PL novelty factor wearing off is another factor (but definitely only a 2nd order effect).
Stupid post. For one Savile didn't give money did he? To compare to savile is ****ing low too.
It's often the university hospital etc who publicize the donations hoping it attracts other donations.
weve lost about 500/season
so by that calculation, we should be around 21K mark
His haircut is close enough to Adam Pearson's that it could make them cousins, and for that fact alone he gets my vote.
well..
CITY'S AVERAGE CROWDS IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE
2008-09: 24,816
2009-10: 24,390 to 2013-14: 24,127 = 267
2013-14: 24,127 to 2014-15: 23,557 = 570
2014-15: 23,557 to 2016-17: 22,347 (after four games) = 610