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Transfer Deadline Day..

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by MrRAWhite, Aug 31, 2016.

  1. grandpops

    grandpops Well-Known Member

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    Don`t blame him mate tbh. Paying top coin for crap. It`s been a millstone for years.

    Can`t use it as an excuse now though.
     
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    Don't think he has got a release clause in his current contract
     
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  3. E.T. Fairfax

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    Not getting a centre forward in is absolutely scandalous. We have had all transfer window. And after Borini's injury I'd have thought it would be a priority. A lot bigger priority than M'Vila. Can N'dong fill M'Vila's space until January? Or is he a different type of midfielder. Anyone know?

    EDIT : seems like he's a defensive midfielder. Why buy him for £13+ million when we could have had M'Vila for supposedly £7 million. This surely means that M'Vila will be coming for nothing in January?
     
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    Mika?

    I would play Pienaar before Cattermole, mate.
     
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  5. The Norton Cat

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    If (and I realise its a big if) his 'family reasons' are genuine then he goes with my blessing and giving him **** when he returns is completely unwarranted.
    On the other hand, if Cattermole, a player whose greatest attribute is that he shouts a lot, is worth £20m, how can selling Kaboul, a French international and a key part of our defence, for £4m represent good business?
     
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  6. grandpops

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    Seen a video of him scoring a screamer so he`s got a canny welly on him.

    Tackling, breaking up plays and passing seem to be his strengths. Know no more than that tbh.
     
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  7. marcusblackcat

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    His least injury hit season in his career last season but he still only played 22 games! Bit like Kirchhoff I suppose as we had him playing more games than he ever has but now he's crocked again. Suppose we'll never really know but I wouldn't be upset or surprised to see Kaboul get injured. Homesick my arse - he hasn;t gone home, he's gone to ****ing London!
     
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  8. marcusblackcat

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    Bullshit! Would he have been homesick or had those family issues if we'd offered him £150k a week? I very much doubt it. He deserves all the **** he'll get from me. Will get no support and I hope the **** gets injured.

    As for your "CAttermole's greatest attribute" comment. Guess you don't watch him play much then!
     
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    Isn't Cattermole the same though? We get about 20 - 25 games a season out of him, and you have him down as a 20m player.

    I got told that his child is in and out of hospital quite a bit and that was a factor in him moving. Absolutely no idea if there's anything to that, mind!
     
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  10. The Norton Cat

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    I don't know how reliable the source was but someone on here suggested that it was due to marital reasons. Whether it was this or because his child is ill, I can empathise. You're right, if he just wanted to move to London (Watford isn't in London by the way) then he was disrespectful but I doubt it was solely that.
    As for my comments regarding Cattermole, I would like to assure you that firstly, I also recognise his leadership qualities and secondly, I can spot a footballer thank you.
     
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  11. Commachio

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    <laugh> has nee one learnt yet, divnt mention Catts when Marcus is about. He will argue this one till his last breath.
     
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  12. MrRAWhite

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    ****ing hell..Loads of our players with perms I see..I thought they went out of fashion in the 1970's..
     
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  13. Commachio

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    Not in scouseville.
     
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  14. Expat-Cat

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    Actually, this is a lot more complicated, but how much of that complication surfaces depends (of course) on how much M'Villa and Ruban Kazan want to push it.

    Remember the Bosman case? One of the main legal rights at the base of that judgement is the right of EU individuals to work; that includes not just the immediate right but also relates to actions that impair future work capabilities and opportunities.

    So let's take a possible circumstance. RK tell JM-V that he is under contract and may not interact with SAFC (or any other football club). JM-V than asks to train with the full squad and be considered for team selection. RK say no, we don't want you in the main squad. J-MV then asks how he can train, but as he isn't playing he probably can't get a visa. RK say just sit down and we keep paying. At this point RK hold the contract and player registration but are acting in a way that adversely affects JM-V's right to work now and, due to lack of fitness and playing opportunity, damage his future career and earnings.

    So IF JM-V wanted to risk the remaining payments he is due, he could challenge the contract (ask for it to be terminated) and
    • demand that UEFA end his registration with RK. He could of course still sue RK for the contract value.
    • OR leave the contract but ask UEFA for permission to train with a team to maintain his right to work etc.
    Unless RK can argue that JM-V has broken his contract before this in some way, then they may find it hard to impose "unreasonable" limitations on JM-V's actions. And of course it also depends on legal opinions about the transfer fee demanded i.e. is that also unreasonable.

    There are a lot of other possible circumstances that we don't know about, but the situation is not clear cut based only on the existing contract and player registration.
     
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  15. Tel (they/them)

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    Though shall not speak ill off Lesley Cattermole. Marcus: 12:45

    All referees are colluding to stop him winning the quadruple and the world cup on his own.
     
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  16. Nacho

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    Catts is usually too modest to score goals but it was his nan's birthday so he thought he'd make an exception and get one for her:

     
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  17. Charley Farley

    Charley Farley Well-Known Member

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    Is it absolutely definite that M'Vila has signed a pre contract with us?
     
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  18. Lostinvegas

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    Mika the keeper or whatever he is called, that we signed last minute. Or have I missed something.

    You can jig the team around to your taste, but that's who Moyes has to work with till jan.
     
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  19. Commachio

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    <wah> My head hurts.
     
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  20. Lostinvegas

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    No one seems to know for sure mate. I think something must be going on with him because no other club was very interested in him, which would be very strange for such a good player.
     
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