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Nads said:
We achieve nothing by having him rot in reserves and losing £18million plus.

Absolutely nothing.
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I know what you mean but I disagree we gain nothing, it sends a clear message to current players and future players that they cannot play silly buggers when it comes to their behaviour during the transfer window.

It also sends a message to other clubs that they need to make a sensible offer which is agreed by us before they can start tapping up our players.

Otherwise everything we have a good player, another team taps them up, the player starts acting up and refusing to play then we have to accept any old fee that's offered. Stones was worth 50m because Everton refused many other lower offers.
 
Lostinvegas said:
I know what you mean but I disagree we gain nothing, it sends a clear message to current players and future players that they cannot play silly buggers when it comes to their behaviour during the transfer window.

It also sends a message to other clubs that they need to make a sensible offer which is agreed by us before they can start tapping up our players.

Otherwise everything we have a good player, another team taps them up, the player starts acting up and refusing to play then we have to accept any old fee that's offered. Stones was worth 50m because Everton refused many other lower offers.
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I get all that, but realistically £18million is a good fee for Kone.

That's the crux, we wouldn't be selling for a pittance.
 
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NEWCASTLE LINE UP TOTTENHAM 23-YEAR-OLD, PRICE TAG IS £4M
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21st August, 2016, 9:55 AM

By Joe Nelson

Tottenham defender DeAndre Yedlin is a £4million target for Newcastle, according to a report.

The Mail claim that Magpies manager Rafael Benitez is keen to sign the 23-year-old right back amid growing doubts over the future of Daryl Janmaat.

It is said that Newcastle are seeking out cover at right-back following an injury to summer signing Jesus Gamez.

The report also states that Janmaat is looking for a move away from Tyneside, with Napoli and West Ham interested in the services of the Dutchman.

Yedlin spent last season on loan at Sunderland, helping them to maintain their Premier League status, and is now believed to be surplus to requirements at White Hart Lane. He also has an offer from Aston Villa, while Hull and Derby are keen to sign him.

The player has been advised by ex-U.S.A midfielder Stuart Holden to leave the north London outfit to help advance his career.

Yedlin played a key role for the Black Cats last season as they avoided relegation under the new England manager Sam Allardyce.

The right-back made 25 appearances for Sunderland across all competitions and made a strong impression with his defending and pace when attacking during his time at the club.

New Sunderland manager David Moyes told the Sunderland Echo at the start of August that they were still interested in the 23-year-old, even though Allardyce is no longer at the helm.

The full-back joined Spurs from Seattle Sounders in 2014 on a four-year contract but has only made one competitive appearance for the Londoners.

Spurs are well equipped in the full-back position with English pair Kyle Walker and Kieran Trippier ahead of Yedlin in the battle for right-back.

In other Newcastle transfer news, the Magpies have made a move for this 24-goal striker.
 
Lostinvegas said:
I know what you mean but I disagree we gain nothing, it sends a clear message to current players and future players that they cannot play silly buggers when it comes to their behaviour during the transfer window.

It also sends a message to other clubs that they need to make a sensible offer which is agreed by us before they can start tapping up our players.

Otherwise everything we have a good player, another team taps them up, the player starts acting up and refusing to play then we have to accept any old fee that's offered. Stones was worth 50m because Everton refused many other lower offers.
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Clubs have no power anymore mate, you can't pretend there's a way to get control back because there isn't.

Player and agent power has just cost us £100m.

If you tell him he has to stay he'll sign that contract and turn up at training giving 50% effort, same on the pitch, then what?
 
Notorious T.E.L said:
Clubs have no power anymore mate, you can't pretend there's a way to get control back because there isn't.

Player and agent power has just cost us £100m.

If you tell him he has to stay he'll sign that contract and turn up at training giving 50% effort, same on the pitch, then what?
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Read my post re Kone not playing until he is 31. You could do it you just need a manager and chairman with some balls.

Otherwise you might as well just give the richest club the title every year. Or we all go and support 1 of the top 4.

It's time for salary and transfer caps.
 
Lostinvegas said:
Read my post re Kone not playing until he is 31. You could do it you just need a manager and chairman with some balls.

Otherwise you might as well just give the richest club the title every year. Or we all go and support 1 of the top 4.

It's time for salary and transfer caps.
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Never happen.
 
Lostinvegas said:
Probably right as it cuts the amount of money coming into the premier league.

It's all about buying success these days.
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Its because we are being left behind. 10 years straight in the prem, it shouldnt have been this way. Tells its own story on the running of the club.
 
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commachio1 said:
It is, but to complain about other clubs buying success says a lot. How or why are we being outspent by Watford, Burnley etc?
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We can't say that 100% until the end of the window but if it's the case then we might as well accept relegation.

The how is easy, their owners are investing their own money, the why is more difficult.

Part of our problem is location, players just don't want to come to the NE.
 
I mean no ill on these other clubs but FFS this is Sunderland AFC, so how the hell can the likes of Burnley, Bournemouth, Hull, Swansea, Boro, Watford & Palace complete at this level better than us.
 
Lostinvegas said:
We can't say that 100% until the end of the window but if it's the case then we might as well accept relegation.

The how is easy, their owners are investing their own money, the why is more difficult.

Part of our problem is location, players just don't want to come to the NE.
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Sorry mate i dont subscribe to that theory.
 
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Sunderlad said:
I mean no ill on these other clubs but FFS this is Sunderland AFC, so how the hell can the likes of Burnley, Bournemouth, Hull, Swansea, Boro, Watford & Palace complete at this level better than us.
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Thats the question.
 
Being in the North East SHOULD'NT affect the income of any players, look at those up the road. Apparently we have a state of the art Academy and a beautiful stadia, I think it is partly to do with the amount of changes in management over the past years, it breeds uncertainty within players & back room staff turnover.

I DO think that Moyes will turn things around and we will avoid relegation, but we need to keep him for the longer term.
 
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Lostinvegas said:
Read my post re Kone not playing until he is 31. You could do it you just need a manager and chairman with some balls.

Otherwise you might as well just give the richest club the title every year. Or we all go and support 1 of the top 4.

It's time for salary and transfer caps.
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This isn't happening at every other club mate, you need to look inwards rather than at the bigger picture. You say a manager and chairman with balls, essentially you want a Roman Abramovic who's happy to write off £20m and laugh it off, even at Chelsea though, it doesn't happen, their players are loaned out, like Cuadrado and many others, financially it's not viable.

Salary caps would be pointless too, the agents would just work bigger signing on fees, bigger bonuses and bigger image deals into contracts to close the gap.

Leicester just won the league on a small budget mate, you can't use that rich club argument anymore, even if it is an exception to the rule.
 
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Notorious T.E.L said:
This isn't happening at every other club mate, you need to look inwards rather than at the bigger picture. You say a manager and chairman with balls, essentially you want a Roman Abramovic who's happy to write off £20m and laugh it off, even at Chelsea though, it doesn't happen, their players are loaned out, like Cuadrado and many others, financially it's not viable.

Salary caps would be pointless too, the agents would just work bigger signing on fees, bigger bonuses and bigger image deals into contracts to close the gap.

Leicester just won the league on a small budget mate, you can't use that rich club argument anymore, even if it is an exception to the rule.
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So what your saying is we should just give up, sell all our best players as soon as someone comes knocking for whatever they offer, or give anyone a big pay rise after they have had a couple of decent performances? Let the players rule how the club is run and 40k+ supporters just have to put up with it.

Our fans are on these very boards moaning that we sold Kaboul for very little. I think most think if JS was worth 50m, Kone is worth at least 25m.
 
Lostinvegas said:
So what your saying is we should just give up, sell all our best players as soon as someone comes knocking for whatever they offer, or give anyone a big pay rise after they have had a couple of decent performances? Let the players rule how the club is run and 40k+ supporters just have to put up with it.

Our fans are on these very boards moaning that we sold Kaboul for very little. I think most think if JS was worth 50m, Kone is worth at least 25m.
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That's not what I'm saying at all, you don't need to be a quantum physicist to figure out what I'm saying.

It's pointless debating with somebody really if they're just gonna throw their toys about and stamp their feet, innit.
 
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