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OK, just to clear up any confusion, the line... things could be worse, is often said. So often is it said that it is easily tripped off the tongue. But it doesn't address the understandable close season concerns of several supporters.
Personally, I don't think SFC can afford to tread water. No club that demands year on year improvement can do that. Mention treading water to Ralph Krueger and see what response you get.
Make sure you've got a spare hour before you mention that too
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OK, just to clear up any confusion, the line... things could be worse, is often said. So often is it said that it is easily tripped off the tongue. But it doesn't address the understandable close season concerns of several supporters.
Personally, I don't think SFC can afford to tread water. No club that demands year on year improvement can do that. Mention treading water to Ralph Krueger and see what response you get.
Yeah I agree with that, but it is still a valid thing to say, particularly in context, which it was.
No one (club) will ever totally appease its entire fan base. We all went through the demotions and admin worries a while back, and I am generally fairly relaxed, after all it is a sport.
I dont think we are treading water either and didnt say we were, we are a progressive company who have a clear plan and know how to get there, whilst dealing with bumps in the road. All clubs have plans and most supporters believe in their clubs plans as it is personal to them.
The only point I will make is that if we dont sign anyone else or if they dont work out if we do sign them then we perhaps have been trading water for a multitude of reasons.
My personal view is we are likely to be trying to tie up another couple of players, and that may take a little time to conclude. I accept other fans may be less patient, but that is their issue, not mine.
Only an hour....why, has he got laryngitis?Make sure you've got a spare hour before you mention that too
I heard something on the radio today which might make you smile whether you've heard it before or not. This is said of Premer League professional footballers and the supporters:
We place in charge of our emotional well being, men that we do not know. They do things that they don't need to do and get paid huge amounts of money, that we can only imagine, for doing them.
I've heard this sort of thing several times, but this was a new way which tickled me at the time.
The woman in the background doesn't yet realize it, but by virtue of being in the picture, she's now the starting left back.
Went to West Ham's first game at the now "London Stadium" out of curiosity. Having found out that tickets were £15.00, it was a good reason to see both the Olympic Park and the inside of the stadium for the first time. It is undoubtedly a wonderful stadium. The lower tiers have been brought closer to the action with the installation of temporary seats that can be removed very easily for any athletics event.
My friend and I found ourselves behind one of the goals and I relate to you our experiences. While most WHU fans are fine they do have a considerable number who are arrogant and racist as I shall relate to you. Many of the stewards were young and black, many of the fans around me were "white". When one of the stewards asked people to sit down, most complied but there were some who blatantly ignored his message. To me that was racist. I ended up asking people to sit down in my sector, and with people in front of me tapping others to do the same, almost managed to get everyone sat down when some bright spark started "Stand up if you like West Ham." The second racist incident to my mind was the arrogance which rang around the ground when the chant went up, "Stand up if you hate Tottenham." (Due to the said connection between Spurs and a considerable Jewish fanbase, I interpret that as "Stand up if you hate the Jews." which I think it is. It is widely sung by followers of Chelsea and Arsenal, so the same sentiments can be applied to them as well.
While they have definitely gone up market, there is still the presence of Essex Man/Chav in their ranks of their fans.
My friend and I found ourselves behind one of the goals and I relate to you our experiences. While most WHU fans are fine they do have a considerable number who are arrogant and racist as I shall relate to you. Many of the stewards were young and black, many of the fans around me were "white". When one of the stewards asked people to sit down, most complied but there were some who blatantly ignored his message. To me that was racist. I ended up asking people to sit down in my sector, and with people in front of me tapping others to do the same, almost managed to get everyone sat down when some bright spark started "Stand up if you like West Ham." The second racist incident to my mind was the arrogance which rang around the ground when the chant went up, "Stand up if you hate Tottenham." (Due to the said connection between Spurs and a considerable Jewish fanbase, I interpret that as "Stand up if you hate the Jews." which I think it is. It is widely sung by followers of Chelsea and Arsenal, so the same sentiments can be applied to them as well.
While they have definitely gone up market, there is still the presence of Essex Man/Chav in their ranks of their fans.
I don't think either of the things you describe are racist at all. The first is acting like a dick. The second is disliking a local rival...
Don't ever leave us Ides, please.
It's like having our very own old curiosity shop when you post.
These fans completely ignored the steward and were prepared to tell the steward to "go places" should he have tried to get the fans to sit down more forcefully. If the steward had been the size of the rugby forward I think the fans would have reacted differently.
Why do all three of these PL London clubs choose to cite Tottenham as their number one dislike? It smacks of a perceived superiority. Why didn't they express their dislike of Arsenal instead, a club that has had far more success than Spurs and is the biggest club in London in terms of fanbase and stadium size?
So it was sizeist, not racist now!?
Second point, I have no idea, but honestly I do think there's enough racism around without creating it in anything we see and hear.
Okay, there may be some residual, long buried element to these two, but for you to have decided that both these instances are driven by that is a real stretch, sorry!
Spurs have always been their perceived rivals along with Millwall.
Ides, some people just don't love Spuds like you do
It may be a "stretch but being there was the look in a certain fan's eyes as if he was saying, "Don't you tell me to sit down you ***** ****".
I think you're looking for things that, quite frankly, aren't there. That's arguably the most ridiculous posts I've ever read on this forum (and I read GC sometimes!)
We have many on here who hate/dislike Spurs. Are you calling them anti-semites?
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