Off Topic BREXIT

Can you explain why there is the slightest chance of the loss of Gibraltar?

 

I think it's you that is delusional. Where do you get October from? Because Cameron mentioned it when he said he wanted a successor in place by the time of the next party conference?
I think the party will want the new leader in place as quickly as possible. Don't go by what the BBC says.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK)_leadership_election,_2016

 

I have no interest in deciding which gang of slave masters.we submit too or in the mechanism that might be used to do so. It's an absurd situation. No rational society would allow itself to be reduced to such a position in the first place.

If we had a democracy in the first place, the decision wouldn't have needed to be made.

 

Gibraltar relies on access to the single market almost entirely. Hence why over 90% voted for remain. A condition proposed by the largest political party in spain is to make gibraltar's access to the single market post brexit dependent on shared sovereignty over Gibraltar. It's all there in various newspapers if you want to research it. Might not be in the Express admittedly.

 

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What does any of that mean? You can't even explain what your democracy consists of.

 

We can buy sugar from w indies, wheat from Canada rather than europe. Now we have options the EU have to be careful. Normal businesses across EU dont want restriction. I. know the EU bosses will try but common sense should prevail. Its the economy! EU fecks about too much they drive more exits on more far right nutters more instability. That is the worst of our exit.

 

Cameron himself said it we should aim to have a successor in place by the start of the conference in October.

Nice swerve of countering the main crux of my post btw I.e. the uncertainty in the markets

 

Have you been on Facebook and Twitter for a group hug with like minded folk such as yourself.

 

Gibraltar will never give up their sovereignty. That's as likely to happen as the Falklands giving up their sovereignty.

 

You seem obsessed with being ignored. I'm saying that there wont be a delay of four months. The party conference is just over three months away - 2 to 5th of October. The Conservative Party will get on with the vote(s) as quickly as possible precisely because they will want to minimise uncertainty.

 

Yes like i said i was in it 20 years so remember the tough years.
You make hay when the sun shines though and i had avdecade of goid money.
Not sure what youre disagreeing with.

 

I have no idea whether it will happen or not. Neither do you. You asked why there was the slightest chance of losing Gibraltar, I merely relayed the widely reported news. Up to you how likely you want to think it is of happening. If you don't want answers don't ask questions.

 

What caused that irrelevant comment?

 

There are plenty of controls on industry, so maybe it's time to put more control on financial markets to stop it behaving like a horse startled by a leaf because it thinks it will kill it.

The situation wasn't much more certain before the vote, and nothing is liable to actually change for months, and even then it will be done with economics in mind.

 

Are you suggesting that if I did, you would consider it on it's merits and return with rational and constructive criticism? I suspect you wouldn't as your own mindset was cast by the indoctrination of your formative years which you are so proud of.

It can't be done in a face book style soundbite. Sorry, you will have to do your own research.

There are innumerable examples both in practice and theoretical. If I wasted my time explaining them all to you it would take many long posts and references to many wordy documents and books. I doubt you would bother reading them if I did and I don't think this forum is the place for them. Neither am I interested (despite your obvious and irritating fascination with mine) in your opinion. It being fixated in outmoded left v right rhetoric and the denial of any alternative.

Could you give a worthwhile comprehensive description of what your democracy consists of?

(Rhetorical question, please spare me)

 

I said: I've never mentioned my IQ and when I asked a question about IQ tests you panicked and thought I was asking about your IQ. Says it all really.

You really seem to have a problem with comprehension don't you?

 

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I think everyone should take a breather.
I voted in but can see both sides of the argument where most on here cant.
Lets see after negotiations because it may end up to something similar to what we have and im sure THEN both sudes will claim victory.

 

I think the present system with a tweak for the alternative vote (I made a mistake about the name earlier) would be preferable.
http://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/alternative-vote
When there are single issues of such fundamental importance such as Scottish independence, EU remain/leave and major changes to the constitution I think referendums are required.
Wasn't too hard was it?