LEAVE OR REMAIN

My last 'meaningfull' vote was back in the 70s. Moving to blue areas like The New Forest, Chichester and Wimborne made voting a very token activity for this old socialist.

 

My vote didn't win till I was 40. The snake Blair made me wait for it and the other was a coalition.

 

Poor ol' Gibraltar...

 

You've been listening to too many metropolitan elite media types instead of asking normal people.

 

It's one way to restore purchasing power parity in the European transfer market, that's for sure.

 

I love that John Curtice will not be drawn into saying more than Leave are favourites.

 

It stayed steady at 1.45 for quite a while earlier but as more areas announce with higher than expected leave numbers it has started to drop again fairly rapidly. Due to the time though the markets are very volatile with low amounts of trade. Though that doesn't mean things won't continue to fall..

The government needs to be strong if the out vote wins.

 

Cameron will stay on for a few weeks one would have thought, but he is finished. I am sad to say - I fear who comes next. Which ego will we have to endure?

 

It'll stabilize at some point tonight, and then I'd expect it to crater again when the markets hit full flow tomorrow.

Going to be a wild couple years, though. Good luck, guys...increasingly looking like you've bought the ticket, hope you enjoy the ride.

 

Pound reaches the levels of last recession.

 

I, of course, took all my guidance from those smart not606 chaps.

If it has gone tits up just maybe politicians might learn bullying and threatening an electorate is a sure way to get them making 'well f*ck you matey' responses.

 

Manchester Result:

Remain - 60% - 121,823

Leave - 40% - 79,991

Not enough for Remain. Only Birmingham and London results to come to rescue.

 

Come on Imp the 'normal' thing is getting a bit tiring now; I work in the state sector as a care and support worker. I read the forecoming economic uncertainly is bad news for many in such jobs and the people we endeavor to support.

 

Stock market futures in US down 2.5% after hours.

Am I wrong or is Canada really going to get it at both ends. Your stock market/economy is somewhat tied to ours, and England is a big trading partner

Maybe you can get the Governor General to petition the Queen or something. There has to be some crazy byzantine long-forgotten procedure to petition the monarchy to issue some kind of obscure royal decree.

 

That's why I still think that even if Leave wins, the UK will not ultimately leave the EU. There are a lot of people treating this as a protest vote who might be much less interested in leaving when the details are laid out.

 

Tbh we hit a 2016 high at the start of the night and then when the Sunderland result came in there was a huge drop to 1.45, it looked like remain would still win and it steadied, then leave seem to have taken a lead and it dropped again to about 1.4, I had thought it would probably sit there until the result was far more clear and then maybe drop another couple of points before stabilising and maybe even having a very minor gain or jumping again if remain came back into it before going crazy in the morning!

If we leave we will need a seriously strong front from the government, it needs to be all rhetoric about the strength of the U.K. And the positive journey we are about to embark on, with reassurances that within the next two years no changes will occur within the common market due to current eu legislation. Stabilising the markets is the most important thing beyond a brexit vote before we then really work on what deals we can do and whether it's up or down for us as a nation!

 

We haven't needed a giant supranational organization to lose all influence over our economy, heh. The direction of the US economy and the price of oil pretty much determines our fate for us...really brilliant long-term thinking to reorient toward resource production.

 

Most of these voters had made their mind up and it didn't matter how the politicians acted. This whole Labour need to get their vote out crap is indicative of how the politicians have just not got the foggiest about the voters. Yes there were undecideds but most of them would have been "shy" Leavers who didn't want to get argued with for not being on the hipster's choice.

thinking politicians were going to sway these people was ridiculous. The Torys got a majority because leavers wanted a referendum yet UKIP still got 4m votes. It was obvious that most people on the leave side had already made up their minds.

 

I've been strongly eurosceptic for the past decade since hitting an age where I became interested in politics. I studied economics and have always believed there was a strong case for leaving the EU. But even as I walked down to the polling station I wondered if I was making the correct decision so despite many people being entrenched in there views (I've spent the last ten years trying to convince people leaving the Eu was a good idea, long before it became a popular idea) lots of people will still have been open to change if the campaigns had been fought in the right ways. Unfortunately both sides used scaremongering, exaggerated and mislead the voters.