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LEAVE OR REMAIN

  • LEAVE

    Votes: 33 30.3%

  • REMAIN

    Votes: 76 69.7%
  • Total voters
    109
  • Poll closed .
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Cameron could leave and call a conservative leadership vote, or announce a successor or he could announce a new election, however with fixed term governments it isn't quite that straight forward.
 
I Sorry I Ruined The Party said:
Stock market futures in US down 2.5% after hours.

Am I wrong or is Canada really going to get it at both ends. Your stock market/economy is somewhat tied to ours, and England is a big trading partner

Maybe you can get the Governor General to petition the Queen or something. There has to be some crazy byzantine long-forgotten procedure to petition the monarchy to issue some kind of obscure royal decree.
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Cameron was on TV the other day cockahoop about the almost completed trade agreement, which he said had been 7 years in the making, with Cananda. Which Trudeau is probably hurridly shredding as we speak
 
Boston voted 76%. Boston has been overloaded with Eu migrants. Don't believe the figures the papers say about 15%. That is how many live in Boston. The agencies have static caravans on the edge of the farmer's fields and of course they all flood into Boston for nightlife and such. Boston is a pot simmering close to boiling point.

As for what we need to happen I agree we need to steady the ship and keep things as they are however there has to be legislation and quick to say that EU citizens that arrive before (probably today) and have a job have indefinite right to remain and anyone else that arrives after this date will have to go the Visa work permit route after the 2 years or whatever is up because there will now be a surge over the next 2 years to get in before we leave. People aren't going to accept a million extra a year. Its been simmering for a while already up here.
 
afcftw said:
I've been strongly eurosceptic for the past decade since hitting an age where I became interested in politics. I studied economics and have always believed there was a strong case for leaving the EU. But even as I walked down to the polling station I wondered if I was making the correct decision so despite many people being entrenched in there views (I've spent the last ten years trying to convince people leaving the Eu was a good idea, long before it became a popular idea) lots of people will still have been open to change if the campaigns had been fought in the right ways. Unfortunately both sides used scaremongering, exaggerated and mislead the voters.
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It hasn't had any effect up here in the North. People up here have been waiting for this moment.
 
ImpSaint said:
Most of these voters had made their mind up and it didn't matter how the politicians acted. This whole Labour need to get their vote out crap is indicative of how the politicians have just not got the foggiest about the voters. Yes there were undecideds but most of them would have been "shy" Leavers who didn't want to get argued with for not being on the hipster's choice.

thinking politicians were going to sway these people was ridiculous. The Torys got a majority because leavers wanted a referendum yet UKIP still got 4m votes. It was obvious that most people on the leave side had already made up their minds.
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Yep.

But as one of the genuine floaters a few weeks ago, my remain vote was purely based on the begging of my children, not the (cough) well thought out, mature arguments of either side. If it ends up as close as it looks it might politicians will scamper around to blame others, while looking steadfastly away from themselves.

I see Farage has a stiffy.
 
afcftw said:
Cameron could leave and call a conservative leadership vote, or announce a successor or he could announce a new election, however with fixed term governments it isn't quite that straight forward.
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If Cameron calls an election it will be a spiteful payback. He lied to get the job, then turned europhile. If he is a conservative (which most conservatives don't think he is) he will pass the mantle and bow out gracefully. If not he will prove he was Blair MkII as we all expect.

He definitely shouldn't call a GE while UKIP have their little moment i.e. now. Need to wait and let people cool down, realise they got what they want and vote for a normal party.
 
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ImpSaint said:
If Cameron calls an election it will be a spiteful payback. He lied to get the job, then turned europhile. If he is a conservative (which most conservatives don't think he is) he will pass the mantle and bow out gracefully. If not he will prove he was Blair MkII as we all expect.

He definitely shouldn't call a GE while UKIP have their little moment i.e. now. Need to wait and let people cool down, realise they got what they want and vote for a normal party.
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Tbh I feel like if he calls an election this week he is a massive ****. I don't care if he doesn't want to be known as the PM who took us out of the EU or what his parties internal politics are saying, he needs to appear tomorrow as a strong leader with a plan, ready to take Britain to the top. We simply cannot look weak and unsure of what we are doing right now.
 
I don't see how or why Cameron could call a quick election. I could see a situation where the Cabinet agree to start the process of repealing the Fixed Term Parliaments Act so an election can be called once a Conservative leadership contest is completed but that's about it.
 
Puck said:
I don't see how or why Cameron could call a quick election. I could see a situation where the Cabinet agree to start the process of repealing the Fixed Term Parliaments Act so an election can be called once a Conservative leadership contest is completed but that's about it.
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That's why I said he couldn't just call an election <ok>

Though I believe there is possibly an emergency clause in the act somewhere that is possibly able to be enacted? I'd have to look further into it, but otherwise as you say it would require the act to be repealed.
 
The middle ground where votes were expected to be about 50-50 have leant towards leave which is where the vote is really being won currently.
 
afcftw said:
That's why I said he couldn't just call an election <ok>

Though I believe there is possibly an emergency clause in the act somewhere that is possibly able to be enacted? I'd have to look further into it, but otherwise as you say it would require the act to be repealed.
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That's the practical reason, there's also the question of what the point would be of Cameron leading the party into ANOTHER election.
 
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