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Off Topic YOUR VOTE COUNTED...

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, May 27, 2016.

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ON 23rd of June which way are you going to vote?.

Poll closed Jun 26, 2016.
  1. IN

    28 vote(s)
    43.8%
  2. OUT

    34 vote(s)
    53.1%
  3. DON'T KNOW

    4 vote(s)
    6.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    <laugh>
     
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  2. LuisDiazgamechanger

    LuisDiazgamechanger Dribbles

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    Faisal Islam, sky journalist mentioned 3rd world war as a result of Euro vote. However, wonder it will start in Britain.
     
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  3. carlthejackal

    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough if people decided ultimately that a Brexit is preferable.

    But this decision needs to be taken on the basis of clear facts, evidence (as much as it is available) and reasonable estimates and calculations. It would be appalling if Britain took such an important decision based on who shouts loudest and who can reach people's basest instincts. Ultimately it will be the ordinary people who will suffer. The richest will hardly be affected.

    When you have the most extreme Tory right wingers (completely anti public sector and anti-NHS) saying that £350m saved would be put back into the NHS, you know that the dam has burst and that there is no limit to the untruths that can and will be said.
     
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  4. LuisDiazgamechanger

    LuisDiazgamechanger Dribbles

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    Breaking News:
    Brexit Worries Drag UK Pound To Fresh Lows
     
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  5. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    Manipulated by the banking system who want us to remain in so that they've secured their interests.
    I posted my voting ballot last week.

    Voted to leave the EU.
     
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  6. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    Utter nonsense just like the In campaign saying we will be more open to attacks etc.

    Have they forgotten that we are still a key member of NATO and that our security services are the best in the world.
     
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  7. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    This is the problem, the clear facts are unavailable.
     
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  8. saintanton

    saintanton Old

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    That's because, as with most things, there are very few clear facts. All predictions of the future are based on conjecture.
    I would just ask that everyone is honest with themselves about the reasons for their decision and not try to dress it up with some spurious logic.
    It's a big decision, it will have an enormous impact on our nation (and others) for the foreseeable future.
     
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  9. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    Our influence within NATO would be diminished if we exit the EU imo and 5 former NATO secretary generals and 13 former US Secretaries of State agree...

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...hiefs-warn-brexit-will-give-succour-to-the-w/
     
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  10. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    How will our influence in NATO diminish? We have the best intelligence services and best armed forces in the world. It's just further scaremongering from those who will lose out if we leave the EU.

    The Americans can get stuffed on the subject too. Would they be blackmailed into giving up their sovereignty? Absolutely not.
     
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  11. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    You hinting at our thread Bobby? ;)
     
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  12. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    The biggest problem with this entire debate is that on one side you have Gove, Boris and Farage and on the other yiu have Osborne, Cameron and Blair.

    It's a case of who do you believe is telling the least amount of lies.
     
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  13. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    Who's being blackmailed into giving up their Sovereignty?

    We've stead fastly refused to even consider a federal Europe and have never had any intention of joining the Euro. That's Boris level piffle.
     
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  14. BobbyD

    BobbyD President

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    No you guys are very pro brexit, there's no proper slagging off of brexiters there (maybe Dai but his is just calling you dumb), more the southampton board and a few on here which are basically calling us ******ed like waynetta, or racist like farage (not sure where i sit with him, i haven't really looked into what he has said)
     
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  15. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    America saying they won't do trade deals, big husinesses and banks saying thousands of jobs will ve lost because they'll move their companies etc.

    What about the scandelous TTIP deal that's coming in?
     
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  16. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    Might get a few Jacks ro go and say hello on the Southampton thread then :)
     
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  17. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Don't know about that, maybe 20 years ago we'd have been up there but not anymore.
     
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  18. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    What's that go to do with Sovereignty?

    They're spelling out the consequences if we bail out of the European Union, which is and always has been - primarily - a trade alliance.
     
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  19. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I think they went summary? Arsed? And went to KFC

    45% out at this point which is probably just coming to the 2 week mark is prob the most accurate poll going.

    Ergo... at best we can hope for is a close run thing.
     
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  20. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    They're trying to blackmail us into staying. **** the banks, they're only looking after their own interests.

    Exactly Tobes, it was a trade alliance but it is now becoming a political alliance. Nobody voted for that. The Euro is dead and will crumble soon, we need to remain out of it before it drags us down. Why should we fund and then be helt to ransom by other countries?
     
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