They wanted to own Hull City and then they realised they didn't. They felt football should be free and then thought 'no wait, it should be ridiculously expensive'.
I thought Allam said he thought he was buying a club called Hull City Tigers that had been called that since 1904?
I love being in the north stand Being in N4 was brilliant for me and plenty of those movers around me also love being in N4 Maybe i should have thought about those who didnt want to move But whats done is done and this no concessions **** is far worse in my opinion Stand outside stadium with £10 when its £20 to get in and its IMPOSSIBLE to get in You have no choice Your locked out Stand outside stadium and have to move from e1 e2 e3 to north stand and you have a choice....your NOT locked out To me no concessions is the worst thing ever But yes seat move is not good . But it doesnt lock you out unless you choose that option People have no choice with no concessions if they cant afford it Just my view Thats all
He said he wanted to take young people off the streets and let them put their energies into sport, then threw them out of the Airco & onto the street.
You could have still had that view had you wished, and others could have kept the atmosphere and communities they'd built up over the years. It's not just a simple case of having a seat. The stand move was without any doubt, a **** up. Sadly, some even supported the evictions and are only just seeing what others 'whinging' about. Airbrushing it just means we're doomed to repeat the failures, and **** decisions will still be based on **** advice.
The whole thing about moving E1 E2 and E3 came after the " WE ARE HULL CITY flag incident. The club picked up on thoughts that the kop could be better if it was in the North stand. This had been mentioned by numerous groups for years. Unfortunately some of those who thought it a good idea trusted the club and worked with them to facilitate the move. It was said at the time the clubs only wish was to get the hooligan element off screen and in the naughty corner. Lesson to be learnt, don't trust them they're a bunch of ****'s
I don't know why you have to generalise about the black and white ****e, as it just seems you like to appear as if you have a better, more informed view of life, which is doubtful. It's more a case of being able to see good and bad and being able to make an overall judgement; doing something decent does not necessarily mitigate doing something reprehensible. I believe that the ongoing antics of Mooney and the club far outweigh anything good he might have done for the odd supporter.
Stewards could have simple card readers to know the correct seat but this doesn't cover the customer forgetting. I think the customer will get something on paper that isn't used at the turnstile.
On the subject of West Upper, there is a health and safety avenue open. The Trust could write to the Council as the licensing authority and point out the concerns regarding housing away supporters and the vulnerabilities of lower west spectators to injury from objects thrown by away fans which would not be the case if only home fans could be housed there. The Council could be asked if it is able to licence the ground on the basis of upper west only housing home supporters who are no threat to lower west home supporters. With Lower West housing a lot of older supporters the risk of serious injury or death is greater if they are struck on the head as some will have long term health conditions. The Chief Constable and Crime Commissioner could also be contacted on the above plus entry and exit risks of mixed fans and encourage the blocking of housing away supporters in upper west.
This is the role of the Safety Advisory Group. The police will already be opposing it, but it's not as simple as that. If the club wants to move the away fans, then there has to be a basis on which it's opposed and that must be based on genuine safety/practicality concerns, that's why it will be things like the likelihood of persistent standing and the stand rake which will be given the most attention. Having away fans above home fans in itself is not going to stop anything, it's already happening at dozens of grounds, there are rules in place for how you deal with it. I don't think entry/exit is a major issue either, I assume they'll just have one tower for home fans and one for away fans at the northern end of the West Stand (though I'm not familiar enough with the lay-out to know for sure).
There's a lot of truth in that, and there's a tad more to it too. Some would prefer it just drifted away and say "ah well, it's done now", but there were people pointing out the outcomes at the time that have been sadly only too accurate, and now we're seeing people going through it all over again, and the previous mistakes are a part of the reason why. We're doomed to repeat the lessons of the past if we don't admit them and learn from them and some of the people who didn't listen then, don't want to listen now.
It'll be printed on a piece of card - show the date, fixture, kick-off time and seat number. It's called a ticket ! If members have to swipe a card AND carry a proof of seat then it's a regressive system.
