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As no one seems to know what each club charges away fans over a season, my cynical view is we'll see more at 30 and way fewer lower.

This is despite just hearing that clubs could let in away fans for nowt and still make a lot more money than this season.

30 is too much.
 
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AKCJ said:
But people do know the answer to the question he posed.

Clubs won't say no because there will be consequences. As there are with every rule ever made.

If you don't do X then Y will happen to you.

It's common sense and he got grief for arguing for arguments sake.
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It's clearly you that's arguing for the sake of it.

Q. What are the consequences for not complying?

Your answer. There are consequences for not complying..

Can you see how that falls short as an answer?
 
AKCJ said:
If you could tell me which game was cancelled because of this that would be good.

Leeds threatened it, but they clearly had a rethink and thought "yeah this isn't worth it, we will be in a lot of trouble" and let the cameras in.

But like I say, which scheduled Sky game wasn't shown because a club owner kicked up a fuss?
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I didn't say a game wasn't shown. Bit of an odd response.
 
Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
It's clearly you that's arguing for the sake of it.
Q. What are the consequences for not complying?

Your answer. There are consequences.
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Only that wasn't the question, was it? This is about the 4th question you've made up.

He asked what will stop clubs from breaking this rule and I replied to say that there will be consequences (fines, bans, docked points whatever) that will put clubs off from it because it's common sense.

Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
Can you see how that falls short as an answer?
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What did he want me to say? That they'd be rewarded for it? That they will be given free points? They might well do for all we know.

Clubs won't break this rule because there will be consequences. These consequences have not been detailed as of yet. What can you not understand from that?
 
Bum_Chinned_Crab said:
I didn't say a game wasn't shown. Bit of an odd response.
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Apart from here of course...

Bum_Chinned_Crab said:
Earlier in the season people would've said 'it would never happen' that a club owner would ban paymasters Sky TV from filming scheduled televised games at its stadium.
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Unless you think that Sky have the ability to film football through a stadium's walls.
 
AKCJ said:
Apart from here of course...



Unless you think that Sky have the ability to film football through a stadium's walls.
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He did ban them. FACT. The ban was then lifted before the game took place. FACT. I never said the game wasn't shown. FACT.

FACT.
 
Happy Tiger said:
As no one seems to know what each club charges away fans over a season, my cynical view is we'll see more at 30 and way fewer lower.

This is despite just hearing that clubs could let in away fans for nowt and still make a lot more money than this season.

30 is too much.
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So a positive outcome is achieved for the fans, and you and Chazz are the ones to be sceptical of it. Fancy that.
 
AKCJ said:
Only that wasn't the question, was it? This is about the 4th question you've made up.

He asked what will stop clubs from breaking this rule and I replied to say that there will be consequences (fines, bans, docked points whatever) that will put clubs off from it because it's common sense.



What did he want me to say? That they'd be rewarded for it? That they will be given free points? They might well do for all we know.

Clubs won't break this rule because there will be consequences. These consequences have not been detailed as of yet. What can you not understand from that?
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Weak bait or piss poor argument? I guess it amounts to the same thing.
 
Happy Tiger said:
As no one seems to know what each club charges away fans over a season, my cynical view is we'll see more at 30 and way fewer lower.

This is despite just hearing that clubs could let in away fans for nowt and still make a lot more money than this season.

30 is too much.
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The average cheapest match day ticket in the Premier League is £30.68.

The average most expensive match day ticket in the Premier League is £56.53.

(Cheapest Leicester £22 / Most expensive Arsenal £97)
 
PLT said:
So a positive outcome is achieved for the fans, and you and Chazz are the ones to be sceptical of it. Fancy that.
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Says the bloke who any time anything positive comes from our club throws in a nasty dig at our owners. Actually, when anything positive at all comes out you have a sly dig at them.

That said, I'm not surprised you'd lap up anything thrown out by the Premier League. 30 is too much. The Twenty's Plenty campaign was the right amount, not 30. It's now stuck for 3 years, so don't bother with the *it's a good start* bollocks. It isn't. It's too much.

originallambrettaman said:
The average cheapest match day ticket in the Premier League is £30.68.

The average most expensive match day ticket in the Premier League is £56.53.

(Cheapest Leicester £22 / Most expensive Arsenal £97
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Cheers Lambo, where you get those figures from?

I might be trying to get my head round something impossible (or a pain in the arse to get) thinking about it. What I'm interested in is say I'm a Leicester fan, I go to all away games, how much did that cost me during this season?

Rather than Leicester charge all away fans an average of 22.

Then the same for an Arsenal fan etc. Actually it'd be interesting to see how much fans from different clubs pay over a season to see their team play away.
 
Happy Tiger said:
Cheers Lambo, where you get those figures from?

I might be trying to get my head round something impossible (or a pain in the arse to get) thinking about it. What I'm interested in is say I'm a Leicester fan, I go to all away games, how much did that cost me during this season?

Rather than Leicester charge all away fans an average of 22.

Then the same for an Arsenal fan etc. Actually it'd be interesting to see how much fans from different clubs pay over a season to see their team play away.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...does-it-cost-to-watch-your-team-a6694486.html

The figures you're asking for are not available anywhere that I can see, probably because it would be a massive pain in the arse putting together the list, as there's 3-5 categories at each club and they move about during a season as well. Half the clubs in the Premier League have no away tickets below £30 and most are well over that, so there will be a saving for everyone. For Bournemouth fans the saving is unlikely to be significant as they'll be the lowest category everywhere (other than Southampton), for fans of the top four/six clubs the savings will be massive, everyone else will fall somewhere in between.
 
Incidentally, those average prices are based on the cheapest/most expensive matchday tickets, not away tickets.

Leicester may have the cheapest matchday tickets in the Premier League, but their tickets for our game last season was £35.
 
It should have been £25 adult and £12,50 kids.
Will this mean its £30 for all, no concessions ????
 
originallambrettaman said:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...does-it-cost-to-watch-your-team-a6694486.html

The figures you're asking for are not available anywhere that I can see, probably because it would be a massive pain in the arse putting together the list, as there's 3-5 categories at each club and they move about during a season as well. Half the clubs in the Premier League have no away tickets below £30 and most are well over that, so there will be a saving for everyone. For Bournemouth fans the saving is unlikely to be significant as they'll be the lowest category everywhere (other than Southampton), for fans of the top four/six clubs the savings will be massive, everyone else will fall somewhere in between.
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Fair does, thanks for looking, I suspected as much, but at least you could see what I meant.

Hopefully it will be a maximum and we'll see tickets priced between 20 and 30, and retain concessions etc too.

The fact that the new TV money means clubs make more next season even if they let away fans in for nowt is still mind boggling and makes the refusal to adopt the 20 even more frustrating.
 
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