FWG meeting

[Chazz Rheinhold]

If you read my post, I did not say that the club does enough, I said the club is always willing to work with schools as is the Tigers Trust.

Tigers Trust
We arrange many events through the year e.g. children's coaching courses, education programmes and fundraising challenges.Our Junior Programme provides children aged 4 to 12 with a number of exciting opportunities to keep them active, have fun, meet new friends and develop essential skills. By working with many of the region's primary schools we aim to increase confidence and motivate more children to take up sporting opportunities beyond school.

Saturday Soccer
Mar 5 - Apr 23 | Airco Arena
Mar 5 - Apr 23 | Beverley Leisure Centre
Mar 5 - Apr 23 | Hull Collegiate School

Mar 29 - Apr 1 | KC Stadium
Mar 29 - Apr 1 | Beverley Grammar School
Mar 29 - Apr 1 | Driffield School
Mar 29 - Apr 1 | Woldgate College (Pocklington)

Multi-Sports
Mar 29 - Apr 1 | Hull Collegiate School

Soccer School
Apr 4 - Apr 8 | KC Stadium
Apr 4 - Apr 8 | Howden Secondary School
Apr 4 - Apr 8 | Hornsea Secondary School
Apr 4 - Apr 8 | The Market Weighton School

Soccer School
May 31 - Jun 3 | KC Stadium
May 31 - Jun 3 | Howden Secondary School
May 31 - Jun 3 | Beverley Grammar School

Think I've brought it up with you before TOM. But look where those places are?
Why isnt it at Greatfield, Bransholme, Bilton Grange, Orchard Pk, North Hull, Longhill?
Thats the real problem the club have done nothing for years if ever to promote City and football in Hull.

 

[AlRawdah]

I'm probably gonna get some flak for this but (**** 'em anyway) I think that the 'nice day out' types are mostly our Southern based Tigers (but not those from Portsmouth ) - I can't think of three worst away matches than Southampton away, when we got mullered, Brighton away, in the FA cup, and last seasons visit to the Emirates. All three games were cringingly quiet, the Southampton match had the largest section of anti-fans* of all time, the Arsenal game had City fans** asking stewards to throw their own supporters out! All three games had hundreds of faces that I'd never seen before, and hopefully, won't ever see again.

*anti-fans - a group who were actually close to fighting with City fans who were stood singing and making a noise.

**City fans - no they're not, not in any shape or form.

These are matches where City, or somebody, tend to sell spare tickets on the secondary markets. We get a lot of football tourists in our southern away ends - yesterday included.

 

[The Omega Man]

I'm probably gonna get some flak for this but (**** 'em anyway) I think that the 'nice day out' types are mostly our Southern based Tigers (but not those from Portsmouth ) - I can't think of three worst away matches than Southampton away, when we got mullered, Brighton away, in the FA cup, and last seasons visit to the Emirates. All three games were cringingly quiet, the Southampton match had the largest section of anti-fans* of all time, the Arsenal game had City fans** asking stewards to throw their own supporters out! All three games had hundreds of faces that I'd never seen before, and hopefully, won't ever see again.

*anti-fans - a group who were actually close to fighting with City fans who were stood singing and making a noise.

**City fans - no they're not, not in any shape or form.

As a Southampton based supporter, I think you are talking ****e. I don't see any difference in the crowd, when I go to games. I stood and sang throughout the Southampton game as did all of those with me.

I have to admit that I was very quite at the Brighton game, but walking round the pitch with a wreath and meeting relatives of those who had died, sort of dampened any enthusiasm I had for the game.

 

[The Omega Man]

Think I've brought it up with you before TOM. But look where those places are?
Why isnt it at Greatfield, Bransholme, Bilton Grange, Orchard Pk, North Hull, Longhill?
Thats the real problem the club have done nothing for years if ever to promote City and football in Hull.

I will ask the question when I get the chance.

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

So people are complaining there were hardly any "real" fans at Arsenal. But the away at Bury was full of "real" fans, 4000 of them. Yet away at Blackburn these "real" fans had the opportunity to go but didnt. Interesting.

 

[The Omega Man]

These are matches where City, or somebody, tend to sell spare tickets on the secondary markets. We get a lot of football tourists in our southern away ends - yesterday included.

Arsenal and Chelsea are the worst for it.

 

[spesupersydera]

These are matches where City, or somebody, tend to sell spare tickets on the secondary markets. We get a lot of football tourists in our southern away ends - yesterday included.

Thanks for confirming that, with the number of touts that you see at some of our London matches I thought that might be the case.

 

[spesupersydera]

As a Southampton based supporter, I think you are talking ****e. I don't see any difference in the crowd, when I go to games. I stood and sang throughout the Southampton game as did all of those with me.

I have to admit that I was very quite at the Brighton game, but walking round the pitch with a wreath and meeting relatives of those who had died, sort of dampened any enthusiasm I had for the game.

At the 2013, 4-1 game their was a huge 'sat' section who were central to the goal to almost mid-stand, we had people stood either side and behind (though mostly to the right of them), a few of those sat were giving fingers and verbal threats to some of those stood - I saw it, that's a fact. I also stand by my opinion that the poorest vocal support of recent years have all been matches in the Capital and the South ............. Yeovil in 2004 excluded of course.

 

[Cortez91]

If you read my post, I did not say that the club does enough, I said the club is always willing to work with schools as is the Tigers Trust.

Tigers Trust
We arrange many events through the year e.g. children's coaching courses, education programmes and fundraising challenges.Our Junior Programme provides children aged 4 to 12 with a number of exciting opportunities to keep them active, have fun, meet new friends and develop essential skills. By working with many of the region's primary schools we aim to increase confidence and motivate more children to take up sporting opportunities beyond school.

Saturday Soccer
Mar 5 - Apr 23 | Airco Arena
Mar 5 - Apr 23 | Beverley Leisure Centre
Mar 5 - Apr 23 | Hull Collegiate School

Mar 29 - Apr 1 | KC Stadium
Mar 29 - Apr 1 | Beverley Grammar School
Mar 29 - Apr 1 | Driffield School
Mar 29 - Apr 1 | Woldgate College (Pocklington)

Multi-Sports
Mar 29 - Apr 1 | Hull Collegiate School

Soccer School
Apr 4 - Apr 8 | KC Stadium
Apr 4 - Apr 8 | Howden Secondary School
Apr 4 - Apr 8 | Hornsea Secondary School
Apr 4 - Apr 8 | The Market Weighton School

Soccer School
May 31 - Jun 3 | KC Stadium
May 31 - Jun 3 | Howden Secondary School
May 31 - Jun 3 | Beverley Grammar School

I'm not having a go. I'm just saying changes can be made. The Tigers Trust have already done more this school year and I'm just saying more can be done yet - particularly with match days.

Chazz also made the other point I would have added. There must be some secondary schools that have decent enough facilities for more classes - Siruis North, Kelvin Hall and Kingswood (covering some of those areas Chazz said) are all relatively new builds - plus there's St Mary's which is accessible for the kids of North Hull too.

 

[The Omega Man]

I'm not having a go. I'm just saying changes can be made. The Tigers Trust have already done more this school year and I'm just saying more can be done yet - particularly with match days.

Chazz also made the other point I would have added. There must be some secondary schools that have decent enough facilities for more classes - Siruis North, Kelvin Hall and Kingswood (covering some of those areas Chazz said) are all relatively new builds - plus there's St Mary's which is accessible for the kids of North Hull too.

As I have said, I don't know why, but I will ask. In my relatively modest experience, I find it is often not as simple as it appears. The trust may get grants from East Riding for what they do and get nothing from HCC. That may be why they hold the coaching at the Airco.

 

[Cortez91]

As I have said, I don't know why, but I will ask. In my relatively modest experience, I find it is often not as simple as it appears. The trust may get grants from East Riding for what they do and get nothing from HCC. That may be why they hold the coaching at the Airco.

It likely does come down to funding. I also believe the smaller schools out in the East Riding will probably get more money from the Goverment to spend on their PE than the larger schools in the cities. I can't remember the exact figures but they get more money per child because they have less children and it was significantly more. Perhaps the schools themselves are putting money into the pot for the Tigers Trust to visit.

 

[Cortez91]

Perhaps not the correct place to ask but does anybody know when the questionnaire results will be released? We saw those after the first round of voting but it reopened and we haven't heard anything since.

 

[originallambrettaman]

If you read my post, I did not say that the club does enough, I said the club is always willing to work with schools as is the Tigers Trust.

Tigers Trust
We arrange many events through the year e.g. children's coaching courses, education programmes and fundraising challenges.Our Junior Programme provides children aged 4 to 12 with a number of exciting opportunities to keep them active, have fun, meet new friends and develop essential skills. By working with many of the region's primary schools we aim to increase confidence and motivate more children to take up sporting opportunities beyond school.

Saturday Soccer
Mar 5 - Apr 23 | Airco Arena
Mar 5 - Apr 23 | Beverley Leisure Centre
Mar 5 - Apr 23 | Hull Collegiate School

Mar 29 - Apr 1 | KC Stadium
Mar 29 - Apr 1 | Beverley Grammar School
Mar 29 - Apr 1 | Driffield School
Mar 29 - Apr 1 | Woldgate College (Pocklington)

Multi-Sports
Mar 29 - Apr 1 | Hull Collegiate School

Soccer School
Apr 4 - Apr 8 | KC Stadium
Apr 4 - Apr 8 | Howden Secondary School
Apr 4 - Apr 8 | Hornsea Secondary School
Apr 4 - Apr 8 | The Market Weighton School

Soccer School
May 31 - Jun 3 | KC Stadium
May 31 - Jun 3 | Howden Secondary School
May 31 - Jun 3 | Beverley Grammar School

It's bizarre that they're almost all in the East Riding.

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

I'm not having a go. I'm just saying changes can be made. The Tigers Trust have already done more this school year and I'm just saying more can be done yet - particularly with match days.

Chazz also made the other point I would have added. There must be some secondary schools that have decent enough facilities for more classes - Siruis North, Kelvin Hall and Kingswood (covering some of those areas Chazz said) are all relatively new builds - plus there's St Mary's which is accessible for the kids of North Hull too.

Guess where young Tymon went on his first coaching course?? Now with someone like him his mum and dad may/will have taken him to the KC to do one. But...
So there could be kids on Bransholme Longhill etc that are finished with it before they've even started. Dad's at work in the kids holidays and mum hasnt got a car, or single mum. Four bus journeys every day for a week!! Not gonna happen is it.

 

[Cortez91]

Guess where young Tymon went on his first coaching course?? Now with someone like him his mum and dad may/will have taken him to the KC to do one. But...
So there could be kids on Bransholme Longhill etc that are finished with it before they've even started. Dad's at work in the kids holidays and mum hasnt got a car, or single mum. Four bus journeys every day for a week!! Not gonna happen is it.

Side note - Tymon spent his first few years of school life at ours (we're/I'm not taking any credit or claim to fame haha).

There'll be hundreds of estate kids playing football evening after evening and every weekend and will go unnoticed unfortunately. It's not the club's fault they slip the net but a closer place to go on one of these courses always gives them/their parents/their schools the option to send them.

 

[Cortez91]

It's bizarre that they're almost all in the East Riding.

Don't tell Allam. We'll be the East Riding Tigers next.

 

[balkan tiger]

Are these Tiger Trust school things free for the kids?

 

[StevensonKieran]

Side note - Tymon spent his first few years of school life at ours (we're/I'm not taking any credit or claim to fame haha).

There'll be hundreds of estate kids playing football evening after evening and every weekend and will go unnoticed unfortunately. It's not the club's fault they slip the net but a closer place to go on one of these courses always gives them/their parents/their schools the option to send them.

Out of interest, which school was it? It'd be good for the club to go back there and make a good example of Josh.

 

[Cortez91]

Are these Tiger Trust school things free for the kids?

Maybe TOM can correct me but those which take place on weekends/during half terms, the children (or rather their parents pay). I've copied one from their website here(they offer plenty more):

A Soccer School involves coaching basic football skills through a range of fun games, challenges and small-sided matches. The coaches will deliver sessions which are age appropriate, safe and enjoyable for all.

Children attending a course will receive quality coaching, an attendance medal and certificate and there are chances to win prizes in a free raffle. Courses are organised Monday to Friday each week, (except Bank Holidays), with the presentation and raffle taking place on the last afternoon.

Our coaches are FA qualified and DBS checked. Children are placed in age groups.

Book: 2 days for £25, 3 days for £35, 4 days for £40, 5 days for £45.
Time: 10.00am-3.00pm

To find out where and when this activity takes place, click here. -


Tigers trust activities that take place in the school as a part of the child's PE will probably be free to the child. The school/fundraising may cover the cost (if any).

 

[Cortez91]

Out of interest, which school was it? It'd be good for the club to go back there and make a good example of Josh.

Josh was only with us for his first few years. Most of his development will have come throughout Key Stage 2 and onwards. I can't remember which school Josh moved to but I could find out. It would be unfair for us to even suggest he got where he is today because he did X, Y and Z at our school. I'm not sure I should post which school I'm at.

I'd love him to come chat with the kids though. We had Jack Hobbs in a few years ago and the kids loved it (I've seen Akpom and Hayden have been to some primary schools in the last couple of weeks).