FWG meeting

[AlRawdah]

For full flights the price goes up near the flight date. For less full flights the price goes down. You're all correct!

 

[originallambrettaman]

That's simply not true - until very recently I flew every week for many years both around Europe and also all over the world - I have yet to come across one airline that actively encourages people to wait before they book because they will reduce the price - on the other hand airlines are excellent at capturing those last minute business trips a full price - airlines want cash in the bank and the best way of doing that isctempt people to book early - I can't even begin to work out how much money my company lost by not booking early but waiting until the last minute - I accept if you're looking at a charter flight when a company may have hired the plane for whatever reason and can't fill theseats then last minute they may reduce prices to get any money in last minute but that's totally different to the normal scheduled airline booking system

You take pot luck when you book last minute, you might or might not get a flight, but you can certainly get flights cheap last minute.

I booked a last minute trip to Hong Kong last week and it was £400 cheaper than when I'd looked to book exactly the same trip a month earlier.

 

[DMD]

For full flights the price goes up near the flight date. For less full flights the price goes down. You're all correct!

I think it's wrong that they sell tickets for full flights, no matter what the price.

 

[nbetiger]

Not allowed to post details under the after the club's official announcement next week, but it's a very radical approach to pricing and club interaction with the fans, it should remove many of the current issues, but involves a fair amount of upheaval that will upset some fans. Overall it's very good, at least it should be if they've managed to overcome some of the issues we discussed at the FWG meeting (there were some aspects still not finalised and I've no idea if they've been resolved).

not making fans move stands again are they? will it be early next week when the official announcement is regarding membership

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

http://hullcitysupporterstrust.com/when-the-hurly-burlys-done/

I was just reading this and I've not heard anything about some being excluded

"This is a good point at which to move on to fan consultation in its wider form. Currently, as I noted earlier, the FWG is the sole consultation mechanism for Hull City. It’s certainly better than nothing, but it’s flawed. The chair excludes people he doesn’t want there, it doesn’t meet regularly, and neither the chief executive nor the Supporter Liaison Officer (in UEFA guidance, the post that is supposed to be the first point of contact for fans) attends.

Anyone got any info??

 

[PLT]

http://hullcitysupporterstrust.com/when-the-hurly-burlys-done/

I was just reading this and I've not heard anything about some being excluded

"This is a good point at which to move on to fan consultation in its wider form. Currently, as I noted earlier, the FWG is the sole consultation mechanism for Hull City. It’s certainly better than nothing, but it’s flawed. The chair excludes people he doesn’t want there, it doesn’t meet regularly, and neither the chief executive nor the Supporter Liaison Officer (in UEFA guidance, the post that is supposed to be the first point of contact for fans) attends.

Anyone got any info??

It probably refers to me. I wasn't invited to the last one and I know of another person who also stopped getting invites. When I queried it with James I was told I was disruptive at previous meetings, which anyone who knows me offline would laugh at. The other person who stopped getting invited particularly dislikes Allam and would sometimes calmly state that view at meetings.

I agree with Andy that the FWG is flawed, but mainly because the discussion is never allowed to go in a direction that the attendees want it to. James has an impossible job; he gives up a lot of time for the meetings and it's not his fault that he's not allowed to do much that the fans ask for, but he gets excessively upset when someone raises the obvious issues, which I believe is what he means by me being disruptive.

 

[Muffinthegoat]

It probably refers to me. I wasn't invited to the last one and I know of another person who also stopped getting invites. When I queried it with James I was told I was disruptive at previous meetings, which anyone who knows me offline would laugh at. The other person who stopped getting invited particularly dislikes Allam and would sometimes calmly state that view at meetings.

I agree with Andy that the FWG is flawed, but mainly because the discussion is never allowed to go in a direction that the attendees want it to. James has an impossible job; he gives up a lot of time for the meetings and it's not his fault that he's not allowed to do much that the fans ask for, but he gets excessively upset when someone raises the obvious issues, which I believe is what he means by me being disruptive.

I've attended all the meetings except the first and the most recent. I didn't know PLT had been excluded and to suggest he has been disruptive at other meetings is laughable. Some of the points he raised at meetings were very relevant and articulate.
For the record I was invited to the most recent meeting but as I'm not attending home games this season I didn't think it was right that I had input on matters affecting those that are. After the disaster that was the ASI fund last season I'm surprised James had the bottle to ask people back to another meeting, personally I thought the FWG was dead in the water.

 

[Cortez91]

Not allowed to post details under the after the club's official announcement next week, but it's a very radical approach to pricing and club interaction with the fans, it should remove many of the current issues, but involves a fair amount of upheaval that will upset some fans. Overall it's very good, at least it should be if they've managed to overcome some of the issues we discussed at the FWG meeting (there were some aspects still not finalised and I've no idea if they've been resolved).

What about if you typed it all out onto a post to get it off your mind, but, suddenly, your finger slips and you click "post reply"?

That's not the same as posting details, right?

 

[originallambrettaman]

What about if you typed it all out onto a post to get it off your mind, but, suddenly, your finger slips and you click "post reply"?

That's not the same as posting details, right?

It's about to be announced formally anyway.

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

Just read CI and theres a bit of a teaze on there from people in the know...

"Reading between the lines, the £2 charge has served it's purpose for what is about to be rolled out. All will become clear very soon.

Earn your stripes.

The ****'s gonna hit the fan on two key points for me, but you know what, overall, I think it's dynamic.

Very interested to see how this will be received."

I quoted this off CI. It makes me wonder if theres something else OLm and others at the meeting cant say due to the NDA. I'm hoping anyway.

 

[originallambrettaman]

I quoted this off CI. It makes me wonder if theres something else OLm and others at the meeting cant say due to the NDA. I'm hoping anyway.

There are other improvements that haven't been announced yet, but they relate to how people can more easily access the ground, more easily buy individual tickets and bundles of games, buy tickets on phones etc, but they're separate to the pricing issue.

The reason there was more positivity immediately after the meeting than there is now, is because the reality of the scheme doesn't really reflect what we were presented with. We were given the headline figure of £21/month and told that the combined adult and child would still pay less than they are now (though might have to move to achieve this) and OAP's would lose concessions but reduced adult pass prices would see them paying about the same, but this simply isn't the case. Had we been told that an OAP in the West would see his pass increase by £3-400, there would obviously have been a different reaction, there was even a representative of the Senior Tigers at the meeting.