The trial of Adam Johnson (part 2)

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I know it's early days in the trial but does anyone now believe that he didn't have sex with her?

I don't. ****ing dirty ****. I shouldn't be following the updates really it's getting me angry <grr>

I think he did, but that's based on him changing plea. I'm not falling into the trap of the prosecution opening statement. Even when cases are thrown out of court, the opening statement from the prosecution still sounds damning. We're not even at the point of evidence yet. Now it just a pair of barristers garnishing their version of events before we get down to actual evidence. AJ's brief will probably make it look nowhere near as bad. Both should be taken with a pinch of salt atm. All the real substance is to come. I think it's going to be damning though given the plea change but we'll see.
 
I think he did, but that's based on him changing plea. I'm not falling into the trap of the prosecution opening statement. Even when cases are thrown out of court, the opening statement from the prosecution still sounds damning. We're not even at the point of evidence yet. Now it just a pair of barristers garnishing their version of events before we get down to actual evidence. AJ's brief will probably make it look nowhere near as bad. Both should be taken with a pinch of salt atm. All the real substance is to come. I think it's going to be damning though given the plea change but we'll see.

Well the Safari search for legal age of consent on his laptop is enough evidence for me mate, I'm tired of not jumping to conclusions, he's a ****ing slug and I won't believe anything his £5k an hour lawyer tries to spin off.
 
I think he did, but that's based on him changing plea. I'm not falling into the trap of the prosecution opening statement. Even when cases are thrown out of court, the opening statement from the prosecution still sounds damning. We're not even at the point of evidence yet. Now it just a pair of barristers garnishing their version of events before we get down to actual evidence. AJ's brief will probably make it look nowhere near as bad. Both should be taken with a pinch of salt atm. All the real substance is to come. I think it's going to be damning though given the plea change but we'll see.

Yeah I understand that, which is why I put "Now I know it's early days..."

Not at the point of evidence? Is him messaging her asking for "more than a kiss" not evidence? I know what point you are trying to make but from the messages already read out in court is enough for me to make my mind up. He's a dirty ****, pure n simple.
 
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I hope she now realises what an absolute bellend he really is. That is the behaviour of a predatory *****phile [I know the clinical definition is someone attracted to pre-teens, but you get what I mean.]

the definition for sexual attraction for late adolescents age 14 and above is [Ep]hebophilia - I remembered reading it before ... had to look the term up again
 
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The messages are damning. Couple that with him checking the legal age of consent then it's obvious what he was up to. People talk about a fine line between 15 and 16. I'm sorry, this girl had just turned 15. That makes this far worse.
 
Yeah I understand that, which is why I put "Now I know it's early days..."

Not at the point of evidence? Is him messaging her asking for "more than a kiss" not evidence? I know what point you are trying to make but from the messages already read out in court is enough for me to make my mind up. He's a dirty ****, pure n simple.

Like said, I'd decided when he changed his plea. Just pointing out the garnish manipulation element that opening statements bring from both sides in a case. Wasn't having a go or anything. :)
 
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He knew he was under 16.

He seemingly took advantage of the fact she was a star struck teenage.

Even if the prosecution version is embellished and the reality was that she was the one pushing for it, he still knew she was under age and he did what he did knowingly, having check what the law actually is.

He's ****ed.

Sounds like he's about to become single as well......
 
He knew he was under 16.

He seemingly took advantage of the fact she was a star struck teenage.

Even if the prosecution version is embellished and the reality was that she was the one pushing for it, he still knew she was under age and he did what he did knowingly, having check what the law actually is.

He's ****ed.

Sounds like he's about to become single as well......

No way! That baby faced nonce? He'll be someones bitch day one in the clink <laugh>
 
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He knew he was under 16.

He seemingly took advantage of the fact she was a star struck teenage.

Even if the prosecution version is embellished and the reality was that she was the one pushing for it, he still knew she was under age and he did what he did knowingly, having check what the law actually is.

He's ****ed.

Sounds like he's about to become single as well......

The prosecution evidence sounds damning already. Checking the legal age of consent on his phone, I mean come on. He knew exactly what he was doing.
 
It all ties in to the day the news broke and the initial adjournment.

Forensics on his car, his computer, his phone... no wonder the daft **** changed his plea.
 
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