Could I refer you to my OP Oslo? My antipathy is towards the religion and the attitudes and behaviours that it encourages/demands. Do you consider me to be racist?
Some extremely good points there Sheff. (Although its a pity you're finding common cause with Muslims because they hate gays almost as much as you ) Ozzie, what do you make of this punter?
I've encountered racism in every country I've spent any appreciable amount of time in, the most entrenched in China and Japan. Some of it you will never know until you have really got to know some locals and have enough of the local language. It's no worse in the UK than anywhere else in my experience, and considerably better now than 40 years ago.
You are referring to Gibraltar I guess, where does it say that Gibraltar is a part of Spain? The people of Gibraltar don't want to be a part of Spain they voted democratically against it. Like I said in a previous post you have no idea but it doesn't stop you posting. The area of Spain around Gibraltar and Gibraltar coexist relatively peacefully and have a good commercial relations, thousands of Spanish work in Gibraltar. The Rock and the refinery complex are the major employers in the region, tensions are low key except when the Spanish government (who completely ignore the region 9 times out of 10) and sabre rattlers like your self jump on a political bandwagon. I also take exception Seamus to you calling me ignorant and a hypocrit. You are really just a bit of keyboard warrior who loves nothing better than getting under the skin of others.
Looks like he's picking on the wrong people. He's got much more in common with Satanic Islamists than he has with me.
I think the real interesting thing is how we have brainwashed to think about the Muslim faith As for ISIS then it's all about fear IMO keeping Europe especially on edge . If there was this threat about as the media report the troubles in for example Syria then I say bollocks and wake up and don't believe the hype In Cyprus just a day trip away you have plenty of terrorist targets where England has ruined yet another place Yet there are no attacks there no ex pats getting killed for the ISIS cause Yet in England we are on full alert It's laughable I don't think the Muslim faith treats women that well in general and I find that hard apart from that I have no problem with any human or race apart from the English who generally are complete fools
What's your point swordsie I enjoy my new country and all it has to offer I abide the laws of new Zealand and have integrated fully into the new Zealand way of life If ALL immigrants to new country's did this lots of the issues would go away Also I think exhibit d is an aussie
I would imagine most of us think like this. 1- England is a fairly small island nation. 2- How many people can we fit in? 3- Housing. Doesn't matter how much people blame housebuilders, if more people arrive where will they live? And this leads to number 4... 4- Rent. Supply and demand = some greedy landlords and substandard accomodation. 5- Education. Schools are struggling, not just with baby boomers, but immigration and kids with English as a second language, so needs more detailed teaching 6- NHS I could go on, but I think most of our concerns lie not with someones crazy beliefs; they are a minority, but more about our identity as a nation and how our resources can cope..
Spot on. I always giggle when some Christians seem to think their faith makes them better than others. Of course if you really believe that you probably should not be calling yourself a Christian. I agree on the halal point - not only on welfare grounds but because it goes completely against competition laws and is unfair on non Muslim butchers.
I am sick to death of hearing Muslims on the TV or radio complaining about the security services and Britain's foreign policy etc etc. Everything and anything other than themselves. Islam has a huge problem. The Islamic faith requires reformation, much like many other religions (fairy stories) have in the past.
I wonder why Norwegians are not racist! Christianity 4,115,675 83.6% Lutheranism 3,911,622 79.4% Roman Catholicism 83,018 1.6% Pentecostalism 39,599 0.8% Jehovah's Witnesses 11,739 0.2% Methodism 11,055 0.2% Baptists 9,922 0.2% Orthodox Christianity 9,894 0.2% Seventh-day Adventist Church 5,066 0.1% Other Christianity 33,760 0.6% Non-Christian religions 133,219 2.7% Islam 106,735 2.1% Buddhism 14,580 0.2% Hinduism 5,858 0.1% Sikhism 2,975 0.06% Bahá'í Faith 1,064 0.02% Judaism 819 0.01% Other religions 1,188 0.02% Non-religious and unknown 671,411 13.6% Humanism 84,481 1.7% Total 4,920,305 100.0%
You probably know yourself better than me Stroller! But unless you say otherwise I'll continue to believe you are not. But I don't understand why people covering their faces seems such a problem for you? A teacher told me once she felt she couldn't communicate with pupils when she could only see their eyes. But as eyes say the most in a face, I didn't believe it, and have difficulty seeing all the concern about it is anything other than prejudice and unnecessary fear. Some of the teachers fear the kids all have their tongues stuck out at them maybe.
What if they wear sunglasses? I don't think it's right that you can't see a person's face when speaking to them, serving them etc. They should be identifiable. If I walked around in a crash helmet I'd be made to take it off in a bank etc.
My problem with people (women) covering their faces is that they are doing so because they have told to by men in the name of religion (domination). I do not consider myself to be racist, but the reason I started this thread was that I was concerned that my anti-Islamic stance might be perceived to be so. Maybe talking like on here is a good sign but it's racism, nothing else. Am I racist in your eyes, Ossie?
Can't agree with this I fly back into England and look down at what seems a very crowded land ... It isn't there is loads of space We have no rights just because the dice landed in our favour and we were lucky to be born here England is a big shop with hungry greedy people always shopping Investments and property and I'm all right jack is the focus . Most in debt in one way or another pretending they are happy . The focus I find is very inward with wealth being the main driver. Social engineering in London is gathering real pace now as families on housing benefits are relocated to other areas of the UK and forgotten . The councils selling their assets to the developers who are developing what? For what? There is no wonder that different ethic groups isolate themselves in such an environment The UK has generated this rich wonderland is it any wonder that people has their dreams set on this illusion Of course the NHS and the schools are at breaking point nothing to do about population just poor management and the fact that money goes to other corrupt ventures to make the rich richer So cashing in on inflated property is the way as many flee the capital But what to do with equity when Londoners buy in the south for what seems to them pocket money ... Get a second property and rent it out ... Your money makes nothing in the banks ... They are too busy borrowing and gambling larger sums financing the developers Rent prices increase property on paper goes up as greed makes demand ... Seen the prices in Brighton lately? It's growing very quickly and of course the infrastructure can't cope people are squeezed into small groups of a lot different origins it's human to gang up and watch selfish people focussed on only themselves The great thing is IMO that new wave pretend clever rich can't unite ever Pick any typical housing new build complex in the south and you will find the people I hate most ... These people have shallow ideals with rented cars and waffle about how much their house prices have gone up ... and moan about the trouble they have with their tenants ... The very people driven out of society How many young people could afford a house and at what cost to life When I hear or read crap about how the problem is all about other people coming to the UK for a dream of a better life I get mad I agree with Madrid however in another country respect that culture and immerse ... Trouble is the UK has no culture based on the pin pick I have mentioned above ... It's rotten Ex pats if britains move abroad but immigrants if people come to us Until some Brit gets his head cut off on the internet we are all happy watching Syriana on Netflix about as close as we get to understand the problems of the Middle East Happy to accept that Islam is total evil and get brainwashed when selected news of dangerous terrorists is fed to us .... Meanwhile the slaughter in Palestine goes on without a mention I can fully understand why the west looks bad to other areas of the world Who exactly are the extremists ? When is enough enough for the rich on the UK ? Isn't that being extreme ? We can't handle the horror of a head being cut off when in short it's just another life being taken ... Wrong of course but what is worse people dying a slow painful death on a NHS waiting list because of lack of money ? Or suffering from killer stress because of debt etc ... The answer make lager cheaper than bottled water It's ****ed and the UK is absolutely full of racists I am racist against what us Brits have become
