McLaren New Manager?

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666 Tash 666 said:
I'm personally happy we're signing an english manager and he's thinking about taking english players in. Richards is a good player just kicked out of a very good man city back line. He's pretty good going forward as well.
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He wasn't kicked out of a very good Man City back line - he hasn't played properly for Man City in years!
If he seriously thought he was good enough he would have lowered his wage demands 3 or 4 years ago!
He would make good cover for RB - that is it! He has only played a handful of games at CB and clearly never shone! He is exactly the same sort of player as Saylor! Now bearing in mind both only play half a season it may make sense - just a risk if they are both injured at the same time!

However, we have Colo for one more season and Lascelles joining so would prefer someone with Lascelles akin to Colo!
 
In fact, he has only player 19 times in 3 years! I am sorry but that is ****e!
He never progressed at Man City and was happy to collect his mega wage - for me a big No thank you!
 
Darren Peacocks Ponytail said:
Good in the air? His goals tally is more like Willo's!!

Edit: Whoops - Willo is better! Haha!!
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Who measures a defenders heading ability on attacking headers? Everyone can see you don't rate him and that's fair dos but your ranting is getting silly.<laugh> Take a breath and compose yourself fella. I think you've made your point, you don't rate him. ;)
 
Funky Dick said:
Who measures a defenders heading ability on attacking headers? Everyone can see you don't rate him and that's fair dos but your ranting is getting silly.<laugh> Take a breath and compose yourself fella. I think you've made your point, you don't rate him. ;)
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But that is the only thing we have to go for being strong in the air! I suppose for a RB he is classed as being strong in the air!

No, I don't rate him! I don't get why others do! He stagnated and wasn't willing to show his worth by moving on!

Sunderland can have him mate! :emoticon-0115-inlov
 
I read an interview done he did the other day. He said he packed in his cars and has bought a 15 year old Porsche, Not a clasic just a pretty average car. He is prepared to lower his salary for the right club and if he can get games.

He played around 15 games this year, but thats because Fiorentina reverted to 3 at the back unlike last year when they had 4.

His marginally better than Staylor because of his pace, if he does make a mistake he is able to cover it. Plus Micah's been in Italy for a year, if anyone knows how to defend and coach defenders, its the italians.
 
Toon_Man_Sam1 said:
I read an interview done he did the other day. He said he packed in his cars and has bought a 15 year old Porsche, Not a clasic just a pretty average car. He is prepared to lower his salary for the right club and if he can get games.

He played around 15 games this year, but thats because Fiorentina reverted to 3 at the back unlike last year when they had 4.

His marginally better than Staylor because of his pace, if he does make a mistake he is able to cover it. Plus Micah's been in Italy for a year, if anyone knows how to defend and coach defenders, its the italians.
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If they reverted to a back 3 then surely there was 3 CB's and surely would have got more games?
Either that or he is a RB and we have a RB that is very good!?
 
Darren Peacocks Ponytail said:
But that is the only thing we have to go for being strong in the air! I suppose for a RB he is classed as being strong in the air!

No, I don't rate him! I don't get why others do! He stagnated and wasn't willing to show his worth by moving on!

Sunderland can have him mate! :emoticon-0115-inlov
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Nah you're ok fella, We've got two for rightback and I'd rather have van Dijk.
 
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I would have snapped your hand off at Richards 5 years ago, but not now. He will want £45k a week to end up on the physio table alongside Taylor. I'd personally give Lascelles a shot at CB in the Prem, sign another CB and offload Williamson. Lost any respect for Willo after that tackle against Leicester, useless cnut!
 
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Surprised Pervert said:
Who said anything about buying Whelan <laugh><laugh><laugh> He has done a decent job in helping them maintain mid table without flirting with relegation. Something we are unable to achieve.

Solid pros are exactly what we need. We had it in Barton, Carroll, Nolan, Perch etc. Not great players, but add a bit of class around them and you get a good mix. Lets just go and buy another band of French B-D internationals and then pretend they are not the problem and its all down to the coaching. You're a ****ing ostrich mate <laugh>
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Why mention these **** players then? You mention them because you have an unnatural love for British 'model pros', whatever the **** they are. Would Williamson considered as such? Yes, we certainly need more of the likes of him.

We've been midtable before, the reason why we have struggled this season is because we didn't strengthen in January and we made some Goblin Imp our manager.

The first season we were back in the Premier League we didn't exactly pull up trees. We move Carroll, Nolan and Barton on and then finish fifth. I didn't see anyone accuse the foreign element of cowardice or ****ness then. No one was saying then 'Christ I wish we had those players now'.

Look at them now; One, on his day, is a good striker but is crocked, Nolan is widely villified by his own fans as his return to the starting line-up co-incided with their massive dip in form and Barton has been relegated twice in three years and still proves himself a liability.

You need to pull your head out of **** players arses mate.
 
All the problems at Newcastle United with no goals, no strikers, appalling CB's, Jonas/Colback rocking up at left back, no solid replacement for Tiote......and the one fcking position we don't need filled is the strongest rumour around.

It's like the Fast Show sketch when Mark Williams' character returns from shopping.

Schteve - "Hello, Graham. Hello, Lee. So - did you manage to get that striker we needed and another 5 first team players with emphasis on CB's?"

Dumb & Dumber - "Better than that. The sale was on, so we found a new right back who's worse than our current one, loaned in a small striker who has no intention of staying at the club and have done a great deal for yet another lightweight left winger. The costs of everything came to about £60m (we rounded up) so best bet is make Williamson captain and try to sign that nice Jonas Gutierrez lad on a free transfer".
 
Beardsley's Rancid Sack said:
Why mention these **** players then? You mention them because you have an unnatural love for British 'model pros', whatever the **** they are. Would Williamson considered as such? Yes, we certainly need more of the likes of him.

We've been midtable before, the reason why we have struggled this season is because we didn't strengthen in January and we made some Goblin Imp our manager.

The first season we were back in the Premier League we didn't exactly pull up trees. We move Carroll, Nolan and Barton on and then finish fifth. I didn't see anyone accuse the foreign element of cowardice or ****ness then. No one was saying then 'Christ I wish we had those players now'.

Look at them now; One, on his day, is a good striker but is crocked, Nolan is widely villified by his own fans as his return to the starting line-up co-incided with their massive dip in form and Barton has been relegated twice in three years and still proves himself a liability.

You need to pull your head out of **** players arses mate.
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Not at all we moved Nolan and Carroll on at the right time. Barton is a difficult one because he didn't make it easy. This thing where people "well look he keeps getting relegated" is nothing short of moronic. Good players get relegated and play in poor sides! Either through playing with **** players or being poorly managed. Gary Cahill is alright. Joe Cole got relegated before he joined Chelsea, he was decent there. Defoe, Carrick, Glen Johnson, Di Canio. James Milner got relegated. Shane Long got relegated. Kanu got relegated. Pierre Van Hooiidonk. Juninho. Erik Lamela got relegated. Antonio Cassano got relegated. It has happened right throughout the years as far back as year dot football wise.

So while I wouldn't go buying all my players from relegated sides. The problem wasn't selling those players, it was not replacing them with another band of solid pros who were committed to the club (whether from home or abroad, but more likely home)

You have a hard on for not having domestic players, and seem to think they are all cloggers. Yet only one side in PL winning history has not had a solid core of home based players - even then Arsenal had a few key components. Ah the 5th place season, yeah we did have a solid core of steady pros though didn't we? I could have sworn Simpson, Krul, Raylor, Williamson, Saylor, Perch, Best, Guthrie all played fairly significant roles that season <whistle> Those solid pros eh, absolute nightmares.

Its simply about knowing when you've bled them dry and then moving them on, and replacing them with another band. Or better still, have bought a band of talented young domestic talent and developed ready to take over.

I think I've just holes in your argument the size of Obis arse.
 
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Surprised Pervert said:
Not at all we moved Nolan and Carroll on at the right time. Barton is a difficult one because he didn't make it easy. This thing where people "well look he keeps getting relegated" is nothing short of moronic. Good players get relegated and play in poor sides! Either through playing with **** players or being poorly managed. Gary Cahill is alright. Joe Cole got relegated before he joined Chelsea, he was decent there. Defoe, Carrick, Glen Johnson, Di Canio. James Milner got relegated. Shane Long got relegated. Kanu got relegated. Pierre Van Hooiidonk. Juninho. Erik Lamela got relegated. Antonio Cassano got relegated. It has happened right throughout the years as far back as year dot football wise.

So while I wouldn't go buying all my players from relegated sides. The problem wasn't selling those players, it was not replacing them with another band of solid pros who were committed to the club (whether from home or abroad, but more likely home)

You have a hard on for not having domestic players, and seem to think they are all cloggers. Yet only one side in PL winning history has not had a solid core of home based players - even then Arsenal had a few key components. Ah the 5th place season, yeah we did have a solid core of steady pros though didn't we? I could have sworn Simpson, Krul, Raylor, Williamson, Saylor, Perch, Best, Guthrie all played fairly significant roles that season <whistle> Those solid pros eh, absolute nightmares.

Its simply about knowing when you've bled them dry and then moving them on, and replacing them with another band. Or better still, have bought a band of talented young domestic talent and developed ready to take over.

I think I've just holes in your argument the size of Obis arse.
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Wonder what JPF thinks of that? <whistle>
 
Funky Dick said:
Wonder what JPF thinks of that? <whistle>
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Well I'm glad you asked <laugh>

Quite frankly it's ludicrous people don't see a link between teams that sign relegated players, and how **** they do as a result. To me that's like someone believing in God and the bible and all that ****, when scientists prove infront of you that the Earth is just a few billion years older than that holy pile of steaming wisdom dictates. It's like people who see fossilized evidence of evolution, and insist otherwise.

It is a genuine, undisputed fact that players who have experienced relegation in their careers have not subsequently been signed by the top four and become a world beater. They aren't "great players being let down by an average team around them", what utter ballnuts. Poor players are elevated by better players. Poor sides are dragged into mediocrity by good players. Relegated sides fail because they don't have match-winners, the box in which whichever player in that squad you pick firmly sits. Seriously, before someone bothers to form an opinion along the lines of signing players from relegated sides is a good idea, they should at least look at all the sides that have signed such players in the last decade, and what happened to them subsequently. Answer, in all cases, is relegation or flirting with relegation continuously (and then relegation).

Come on, where the **** is the calls to sign Curtis Davis (2 X relegated)? What about ****ing Snodgrass (2 X relegated)?

A Mackem having a thought contrary to this is just ridiculous as well, while we're on it. Fletcher, Larsson, Gomez? World Class talent, ladies and gents. Bunch of clogging ****e. What about Altidore? What about Gardner? What about David Vaughan? That's just the last couple of ****ing seasons.
And how have Sunderland managed (barring a few games where Newcastle failed to turn up)...? Flirting with relegation. That's what buying this crap gets you.

Yes. I can clearly see the "they're quality" argument <doh>

The closest, and I say that in hilarity, anybody has got to being relegated and then making a decent career for themselves at a higher level, was lard-arse Bent <laugh>
 
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