Things We Think We Think #187

[PLT]

You really are detestable. You posted unconfirmed tweets as fact. When challenged by someone actually there you went on the offensive in denial. You've not apologised or retracted any of your crap.
Olm somehow got dragged into it because obviously you ****s stick together.

You both are the voice of HCST. 2 people with their own agendas and tunnel vision in your case with no room for dissent or disagreement. You'll never back down. You'll. never apologise. You wish people who don't agree with you would go away. You think anyone with a different view is irrelevant. No one tells you how to do anything.

It's a shame the trust was taken over by people like you who will always be only interested in their own agendas and **** anyone else attitudes.

It could have been so good for the whole city.

I didn't post anything as fact, I specifically said it was just reported by Amber Nectar. For what it's worth I have no reason not to believe them, but to say I posted it as fact just to set up one of your teenage rage posts is ridiculous. It's simply not true.

You should have scuttled off embarrassed by now, you keep accusing me of all sorts on a thread which is still available to view and on which you were the one making wild claims about Amber Nectar posting lies to suit their agenda, for the simple reason that you didn't like what they were saying.

 

[DMD]

It was Amber Nectar that said it was at the request of Hull City. Either they're lying, which seems unlikely, Tottenham's staff got very confused indeed or City did indeed ask for it.

You seem to be banging this drum since the Ferriby thing when you went mental and insisted I was wrong, then like others went quiet when someone else said they'd spoken to Peat and other players who said they stood by the original comments but were told to remove them, exactly what I'd said seemed the most probable chain of events and you'd been having a go at me for. I'd love to see this list of times I've cried wolf you keep banging on about.

I'm not banging any drum, I'm just commenting on the tapping from your empty vessel.

Don't hide behind amber Nectar, find something out for yourself. People got in with bags of leaflets into the ground, which throws a big question mark over the claim from one person. (wolf)

I stand by what I put about North Ferriby. One tweat said they were dropping two divisons and the players all going. The second apologised and said he'd got it wrong. The actions support the second tweat, but you still stick to the first. (wolf)

The flags etc being paid out of ASI fund was another cry of wolf.

I want a strong supporters voice. What you're doing is detracting from that by going off half cocked.

Instead of considering other options, you blindly stick to your initial claims come what may, and become defensive if they're challenged.

A strong fans group should encourage challenge and questions. It's makes a group stronger. These debates should be a way of finding out where the reality is, not some childish squabble to prove one bit was more right than other. There'll no doubt be bits wrong on both sides.

 

[originallambrettaman]

You're assuming it was Hull City that asked for protest 'material' to be removed.

It's what the Tottenham stewards said, it wasn't an assumption.

 

[originallambrettaman]

You both are the voice of HCST. 2 people with their own agendas and tunnel vision in your case with no room for dissent or disagreement. You'll never back down. You'll. never apologise. You wish people who don't agree with you would go away. You think anyone with a different view is irrelevant. No one tells you how to do anything.

Drivel and tosh this...

 

[DMD]

It's what the Tottenham stewards said, it wasn't an assumption.

Ah, stewards. Yep, they've an honourable reputation.

Amazing how much got through, including bags of leaflets an decent sized banners. Perhaps their communication wasn't all that. Perhaps that steward saw a lot of paper to clean up, or that would perhaps irritate others or get onto the pitch and looked for an easy sell to enforce it...who knows.

 

[PLT]

I'm not banging any drum, I'm just commenting on the tapping from your empty vessel.

Don't hide behind amber Nectar, find something out for yourself. People got in with bags of leaflets into the ground, which throws a big question mark over the claim from one person. (wolf)

I stand by what I put about North Ferriby. One tweat said they were dropping two divisons and the players all going. The second apologised and said he'd got it wrong. The actions support the second tweat, but you still stick to the first. (wolf)

The flags etc being paid out of ASI fund was another cry of wolf.

I want a strong supporters voice. What you're doing is detracting from that by going off half cocked.

Instead of considering other options, you blindly stick to your initial claims come what may, and become defensive if they're challenged.

A strong fans group should encourage challenge and questions. It's makes a group stronger. These debates should be a way of finding out where the reality is, not some childish squabble to prove one bit was more right than other. There'll no doubt be bits wrong on both sides.

You're obsessed with the Supporters' Trust. My posts on here are nothing to do with the Trust. The Trust isn't related in any way to this thread or this subject.

It was about finding out where the reality is when I brought it up, have a look back through this thread and the other one to see where the squabble started. If I recall correctly, on both threads it was our friend Happy. The first time arguing just because he didn't like what was reported, and on this thread just to cause a bit of trouble.

I don't know what you're on about with the flags. What difference does it make whether they're budgeted as ASI or not? At one point the club were telling individuals that they were going to be counted as ASI expenditure, then they decided not to budget it that way and to budget it as all having been spent in the away end instead. God knows why but I don't know why it matters nor what it has to do with me or anyone else. The only thing I care about regarding ASI was that nothing was spent on what the fans asked for and the subsequent insulting comments made by Ehab to try and justify it.

 

[originallambrettaman]

You're obsessed with the Supporters' Trust. My posts on here are nothing to do with the Trust. The Trust isn't related in any way to this thread or this subject.

It's a shame the thread was taken over by people who will always be only interested in their own agendas and **** anyone else attitudes.

 

[DMD]

It's a shame the thread was taken over by people who will always be only interested in their own agendas and **** anyone else attitudes.

Ethos and logos v pathos.

 

[bum_chinned_crab]

Ethos and logos v pathos.

I'm not involved in this one but it is a pretty funny claim considering the recent telephone call to Warren Joyce seeking a pat on the back for something he wasnt involved in.....

 

[originallambrettaman]

I'm not involved in this one but it is a pretty funny claim considering the recent telephone call to Warren Joyce seeking a pat on the back for something he wasnt involved in.....

I didn't call him, he called me and I made it quite clear it was nothing to do with me and I put him in touch with Dude, who got the pat on the back he deserved.

I also suspect my previous post went straight over your head.

 

[bum_chinned_crab]

I didn't call him, he called me and I made it quite clear it was nothing to do with me and I put him in touch with Dude, who got the pat on the back he deserved.

Ok, correction - you called Man Utd with a message for Warren. And of course, he was never going to call back, as any decent human would in that situation....

It is interesting that you said it had nothing to do with you but you felt the need to make the call and scupper pre-laid plans.

 

[The Omega Man]

It's a shame the FORUM was taken over by people who will always be only interested in their own agendas and **** anyone else attitudes.

Yes it is a shame that nothing that you post can ever be challenged.

PLT got it wrong and you added to it, but you both persist in this comical adjustment.

Tell me what my agenda is. What lays behind my motivation to challenge posts or statements that are wrong. I threw my toys out about a post DMD made as I have done on many other occasions.

Twitter is a rumour mill and you have posted as fact on several occasions what you have read on it.

My agenda on here is to simply know the facts as they are, not as some would like them to be.

There is a consistent throughout this forum, your double standards.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Yes it is a shame that nothing that you post can ever be challenged.

PLT got it wrong and you added to it, but you both persist in this comical adjustment.

Tell me what my agenda is. What lays behind my motivation to challenge posts or statements that are wrong. I threw my toys out about a post DMD made as I have done on many other occasions.

Twitter is a rumour mill and you have posted as fact on several occasions what you have read on it.

My agenda on here is to simply know the facts as they are, not as some would like them to be.

There is a consistent throughout this forum, your double standards.

I see that post's gone over your head too.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Ok, correction - you called Man Utd with a message for Warren. And of course, he was never going to call back, as any decent human would in that situation....

It is interesting that you said it had nothing to do with you but you felt the need to make the call and scupper pre-laid plans.

I just emailed a picture of the banner to Man United youth academy and asked them to pass it to Warren, I didn't call anyone.

I didn't know there were any pre-laid plans, we've not managed to get half these banners up in the stadium yet, never mind get them in front of the people that are on them.

 

[bum_chinned_crab]

I just emailed a picture of the banner to Man United youth academy and asked them to pass it to Warren, I didn't call anyone.

I didn't know there were any pre-laid plans, we've not managed to get half these banners up in the stadium yet, never mind get them in front of the people that are on them.

Oh well then, I apologise. You emailed rather than called. I take it all back.

And you might have known if you'd asked those involved. Just an idea, like.

 

[PLT]

PLT got it wrong and you added to it, but you both persist in this comical adjustment.

Claiming I was wrong because I said banners rather than items is ridiculous. It made no difference to the point and mattered to absolutely no one. You're clutching at straws.

 

[The Omega Man]

I just emailed a picture of the banner to Man United youth academy and asked them to pass it to Warren, I didn't call anyone.

I didn't know there were any pre-laid plans, we've not managed to get half these banners up in the stadium yet, never mind get them in front of the people that are on them.

But you do not know what is or has happened, you do not know for instance what plans anyone had or what effect your interference had. Ian Ashby and Warren Joyce, both contacted by you, without so much as a PM to either DMD or Mauled asking beforhand if this was alright or if there anything planned. Agenda written all over it.

 

[Amin Arrears]

Everyone join the OSC. The supporters need a voice.

 

[The Omega Man]

Claiming I was wrong because I said banners rather than items is ridiculous. It made no difference to the point and mattered to absolutely no one. You're clutching at straws.

Bollocks, it's items now. You were wrong, just admit it, it may be hard to accept, but you owe Happy some form of apology. Not much of one, as he is a ****, but he was there, you wasn't and you got it wrong.

If you cannot see the difference in banners and items, well you need to think hard before clutching at a straw, it might turn out to be a combine harvester.

 

[originallambrettaman]

But you do not know what is or has happened, you do not know for instance what plans anyone had or what effect your interference had. Ian Ashby and Warren Joyce, both contacted by you, without so much as a PM to either DMD or Mauled asking beforhand if this was alright or if there anything planned. Agenda written all over it.

Our greatest ever captain was actually called Ashbee.