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Charlie1 said:
If HCST is not supportive of the owners then say it's not. Why pussyfoot around with it. Otherwise Chazz is right and it's all just bollocks politics and smacks of disingenuous lipservice which I for one dislike and I'm sure I'm not alone. Call a spade a spade and be done with it.
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He's answered the question pretty clearly. Personally I can't stand either of the Allams but I'm not the trust, I'm just one person. The trust as a whole has far more important things to discuss when we get together than what we think of the owners, it's not been something we've needed to think about; our priority since inception has of course been the name change re-application process. The minutes of our meetings are all available on our website, so you can see what we have discussed.

If anyone wants the Trust to have an official view on it they'd have to ask the Trust as a whole. We have Facebook and Twitter accounts and a contact e-mail address. We also have an open Q&A session as part of the 'Meet the Trust' event this Saturday before the Burnley game, at The Lair on Anlaby Road. OLM and I can't say what a board of 10 people think without discussing it with them, even less a Trust which represents over 1,000 members. Some of the other directors and members will no doubt agree with me. Others might just be No To Hull Tigers but 'Allam In' and 6 members even prefer Hull Tigers, probably more.

For absolute clarity, though I don't know why this is necessary, the above is of course my personal post. The Trust hasn't posted on this thread and if it wishes to it has its own account for that.
 
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Wade Wilson said:
except I'm
Very comfortable in my stance on the matter. I don't pretend I'm holier than thou and then end up just shouting
Something for a couple mins on a Saturday afternoon ...


Sometimes nothing is better than a tiny bit... Just ask any woman
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Very weak answer.

One more thing, is nothing sometimes better than a tiny bit?
 
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Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
Whoah, hold up there, don't try that one. I'm pointing out you claiming the trust is now against the evictions. You raised it, not me. I simply queried it and you got prickly.

Now, as you've raised it as a committee member keen on keeping people informed, what are the trust planning to do about unlocking the stable door now it seems to be more than just the one affected as originally claimed?
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I haven't said the trust were against the evictions, it happened before the trust existed, so we've never had a formal position on it. And what I actually said was 'the evictions without consultation', it should never have been done in the manner it was, I said that at the time.

There is no realistic chance of the away fans being moved again, so we're not planning to do anything about it, our priorities lie elsewhere.
 
The Juniors love it ...Honestly...
E1 quite low down was not that good a view for them .

We are right next to exit onto concorse and they like that also .

It worked out great Dutch...

But i also know for some fans they hated it.

From a selfish point of view we love the move .
 
originallambrettaman said:
I haven't said the trust were against the evictions, it happened before the trust existed, so we've never had a formal position on it. And what I actually said was 'the evictions without consultation', it should never have been done in the manner it was, I said that at the time.

There is no realistic chance of the away fans being moved again, so we're not planning to do anything about it, our priorities lie elsewhere.
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There's a few bits of selective memory in there, but can you point me at the minutes where the trust discussed the evictions and decided for themselves that they didn't like it but would do nothing?
 
CITYfiley said:
The Juniors love it ...Honestly...
E1 quite low down was not that good a view for them .

We are right next to exit onto concorse and they like that also .

It worked out great Dutch...

But i also know for some fans they hated it.

From a selfish point of view we love the move .
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Given some within want to move elsewhere, including out of the stadium, and others walked away before the season started because of it. I'd agree that your selfish view is not shared by all. Unfortunately, they seem to have got their pleasure at the expense of many other long standing City fans.

I'm sure I'l find some other way to keep us sharing weekends.

I just hope you get support when it happens to you.
 
Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
There's a few bits of selective memory in there, but can you point me at the minutes where the trust discussed the evictions and decided for themselves that they didn't like it but would do nothing?
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It was all done and dusted before the trust existed, so as far as I can recall, the issue was never discussed at all at a trust meeting.

The only reason I know other committee members opinions on it now, is because reference was made to it in our FA submission and there was some discussion about what should and shouldn't be included and how much emphasis should be given to each topic.
 
Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
Given some within want to move elsewhere, including out of the stadium, and others walked away before the season started because of it. I'd agree that your selfish view is not shared by all. Unfortunately, they seem to have got their pleasure at the expense of many other long standing City fans.

Enjoy.
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Take your anger out on the Allams who moved the fans at short notice with no consultation, not the fans who made the best of bad deal.
 
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originallambrettaman said:
It was all done and dusted before the trust existed, so as far as I can recall, the issue was never discussed at all at a trust meeting.

The only reason I know other committee members opinions on it now, is because reference was made to it in our FA submission and there was some discussion about what should and shouldn't be included and how much emphasis should be given to each topic.
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That's clear.

It wasn't discussed, but people talked about whether to include it, even though others supported the outcome, but fans weren't consulted or canvassed for their views by the trust either.

Seems odd, but I guess it is what it is.
 
balkan tiger said:
Take your anger out on the Allams who moved the fans at short notice with no consultation, not the fans who made the best of bad deal.
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I'm not taking my anger out at all, if you read it, I'm trying to clarify a comment a trust committee member made, albeit unofficially.
 
CITYfiley said:
If we had to move back to the East Stand we would.

I would not be angry .
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I'm torn
Not likely to renew until AA sells, and I was annoyed at the way the evictions were done
But right now I would want to stay in North purely because I can't watch football sitting down and it looks like the whole of East stand sit ? ( I think?)
 
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CITYfiley said:
The Juniors love it ...Honestly...
E1 quite low down was not that good a view for them .

We are right next to exit onto concorse and they like that also .

It worked out great Dutch...

But i also know for some fans they hated it.

From a selfish point of view we love the move .
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Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
Given some within want to move elsewhere, including out of the stadium, and others walked away before the season started because of it. I'd agree that your selfish view is not shared by all. Unfortunately, they seem to have got their pleasure at the expense of many other long standing City fans.

I'm sure I'l find some other way to keep us sharing weekends.

I just hope you get support when it happens to you.
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balkan tiger said:
Take your anger out on the Allams who moved the fans at short notice with no consultation, not the fans who made the best of bad deal.
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Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
I'm not taking my anger out at all, if you read it, I'm trying to clarify a comment a trust committee member made, albeit unofficially.
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Looks like your having a dig a filey for makng the best of it. nothing to do with a member of a trust which didn't even exist at the time.
 
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Dennisboothstash

i meant if north was changed back to east for home fans i wouldnt be bothered ....dont want too move back on my own
 
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Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
That's clear.

It wasn't discussed, but people talked about whether to include it, even though others supported the outcome, but fans weren't consulted or canvassed for their views by the trust either.

Seems odd, but I guess it is what it is.
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Again I think that's far clearer than you're making out.

The trust didn't exist at the time of the stand moves, so no discussion, no stance. Cos it didn't exist.

Now it does exist and has included mention of the move in its FA submission. Obviously the move has already happened now, deciding our stance on something that happened a year before we existed would be a waste of everyone's time.

I think a lot of people agree with you about the moves, including me. Sadly, City didn't have an active Trust at the time to try and do anything about it. It shows why an independent Trust with a mandate from fans is important.
 
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