we get beat off burnley then fail to sign anybody else this window?
Will we be ****ed?
Will you still have faith in Gus?
Will Gus get the bullet?
Will we be ****ed?
Will you still have faith in Gus?
Will Gus get the bullet?
What if?
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I'll be distraught if we don't sign anyone this window, and if we lose to Burnley I'm sure the 'doom & gloom' brigade will manage to recruit more members. I've said on a previous thread that the next 4-5 games are huge but it doesn't mean that it's all over if results don't go our way.. Last season proved that.
As for having faith in GP... I fully understand what he is attempting to do however slating the fans isn't really helping his cause. I firmly believe that 2 bad results in the next 2 games may be enough for ES.
As for having faith in GP... I fully understand what he is attempting to do however slating the fans isn't really helping his cause. I firmly believe that 2 bad results in the next 2 games may be enough for ES.
This is the same manager who got us to the cup final got us out of the **** last season and recently beat or nearest rivals - he still learning as a premiership manager and needs time
Will we be ****ed?
Not Quite but nearly
Will you still have faith in Gus?
Yes
Will Gus get the bullet?
No idea!
One question to ask is, what if we come out, all guns blazing against Burnley and have 47 shots on target of which their keeper saves them all. Then they go down our end of the field once and get a blatant offiside goal allowed or a penalty for nothing? The same questions apply!
Be nice to see us come out all guns blazing. With all due respect to Burnley - if they get relegated it means little to them in the grand scheme - their fans are here for the ride and want to stay in the PL but if they don't I imagine they will not have the same feelings we would and will not all want their boss sacked (If their are Burnley fans reading this then I apologise if I insult you - it is just my perception of things). Sean Dyche is highly thought of and, regardless of results, he seems to have everyone at the club backing him - as do the team - at Sunderland it's far different! The crowd are restless and have been for quite some time and this transfers itself to the players all the time. Imagine having to do your job for 40000 "bosses" who are vocal in their disapproval. If those same bosses sang for 90 minutes and made a noise would it spur you on? It would me - christ it did me when I played pub football and there were only 50 or so people backing our team!!
Not Quite but nearly
Will you still have faith in Gus?
Yes
Will Gus get the bullet?
No idea!
One question to ask is, what if we come out, all guns blazing against Burnley and have 47 shots on target of which their keeper saves them all. Then they go down our end of the field once and get a blatant offiside goal allowed or a penalty for nothing? The same questions apply!
Be nice to see us come out all guns blazing. With all due respect to Burnley - if they get relegated it means little to them in the grand scheme - their fans are here for the ride and want to stay in the PL but if they don't I imagine they will not have the same feelings we would and will not all want their boss sacked (If their are Burnley fans reading this then I apologise if I insult you - it is just my perception of things). Sean Dyche is highly thought of and, regardless of results, he seems to have everyone at the club backing him - as do the team - at Sunderland it's far different! The crowd are restless and have been for quite some time and this transfers itself to the players all the time. Imagine having to do your job for 40000 "bosses" who are vocal in their disapproval. If those same bosses sang for 90 minutes and made a noise would it spur you on? It would me - christ it did me when I played pub football and there were only 50 or so people backing our team!!
The tide is certainly turning social media wise like, most of my fyassbook news feed is very disgruntled, smb is in meltdown, twatter is un-impressed, got a horrid feeling its about to go wrong.
I fear without an early goal or negative tactics this weekend it could turn nasty very quickly
I can always handle a defeat if we play well, dont like it but find it much easier to cope
Sort of re-iterating - what if Gus sends them out saying "Get at them early and lets claw back some of those 8 goals conceded at Southampton" and the team goes out with a wimpering stance - the crowd may turn on Gus but it may not be his fault! No-one knows for certain - he took the flak off the team by accepting responsibility for Saturday's performance - this, in my book, is a good manager - reduce the heat on the players. If he came out and said "I told them to attack but they didn;t listen" then the crowd vocally turn on the players.
I can;t imagine he said "Keep it tight at the back and try to get a goal later in the second half" against Fulham - the players should shoulder blame and gus taking this away from them is good management. Ferguson did it as well and other gaffers have.
The sending off had a massive impact on his plans imo, reckon alvarez was due to come on for 30mins, i 've certainly taken the articles as gus accepting responsibilty, and dont think he's slagged us fans off once
Rodwell was absoultely stupid for that and should be fined 2 weeks wages for the stupidity! It's a bog standard yellow card (and, to be honest, he was a little lucky with the first one as that could easily have seen red!)
Although, lets be honest, neither of them were as bad as Costa's attempt to kick O'Shea in the face which never even got a yellow!
The fans aren't daft. We can handle defeat if we play well. There were boos at the Liverpool game because we weren't competing and deserved to be losing.
He needs to set the tactics to be more positive now. Then hopefully the players will do their bit. If that happens then he doesn't have to worry about the fans doing their bit. That is a given!
He needs to set the tactics to be more positive now. Then hopefully the players will do their bit. If that happens then he doesn't have to worry about the fans doing their bit. That is a given!
We have to start winning games. It doesn't matter which games, although Burnley at home is one of the more winnable games on paper. But we should make the SoL more of a fortress by winning home games. Teams needn't fear an away trip to Sunderland at the moment, which is all wrong.
Not so sure - maybe not yourself, and not a number of others (me for instance) - but if we play well against Burnley and are beaten then fans will blame Gus. Not all but normally a vocal number. Hopefully we won't find out
If we get beat by Burnley and Hull get a home point against Newcastle, we will be in the bottom 3. What the reaction will be, I'm not sure. But I do feel the clock will start ticking, for Gus and for us. It's a matter of perceptions, isn't it? - it's one thing to have problems when you're sitting fourth or fifth from bottom. But once you drop below that dotted line into the bottom three, the problem is much more concrete. Moods are bound to darken then.
My comment was more of a general nature than specific to the Burnley game mate.
I do agree with what you say about the Burnley game
To be honest mate, I don't know what my feelings are at the moment. I'll sharp know if that scenario plays out but I honestly haven't a clue how I'll feel at the moment.
I struggle to understand the psychology of incredibly highly paid, experienced (and occasionally, international level) professional footballers who whine about the lack of support from the stands.
I totally agree the fans should be behind the team before the whistle has even blown and it's not acceptable for booing at the first instance of negativity or fault.
But for ****s sake, be men! Get on with the job your'e paid to do and stop ****ing whining!
And Gus, you've had your honeymoon period of management. Look to your own stance. Stop looking for excuses. Play that hand and the exit door will start to swing open.
Yes, expectations maybe unrealistic. But the raw stats speak for themselves and the guys who pay a relatively high proportion of their wage to you and the team think it's time you all started delivering.
Look to yourself to rejuvenate and motivate the team. Give the fans something to believe in and support. They want to! Desperately!
I totally agree the fans should be behind the team before the whistle has even blown and it's not acceptable for booing at the first instance of negativity or fault.
But for ****s sake, be men! Get on with the job your'e paid to do and stop ****ing whining!
And Gus, you've had your honeymoon period of management. Look to your own stance. Stop looking for excuses. Play that hand and the exit door will start to swing open.
Yes, expectations maybe unrealistic. But the raw stats speak for themselves and the guys who pay a relatively high proportion of their wage to you and the team think it's time you all started delivering.
Look to yourself to rejuvenate and motivate the team. Give the fans something to believe in and support. They want to! Desperately!
Atmosphere is poisonous. Gus is right: it does affect the players and I think it's completely unrealistic to expect otherwise.
It does go both ways, and the fans need something to cheer, but when the players try a forward pass and it's intercepted cue fans having a go, keep the ball whilst we wait for an appropriate chance to score cue fans having a go. It's difficult.
The numbers this season have been fantastic and that alone deserves more than two wins, but the crowd are 100% not helping matters, and I'd say they're hindering efforts. Time to forget about our woes this season and just back the lads for 90 mins, fans were behind team vs Chelsea and it made such a big difference
It does go both ways, and the fans need something to cheer, but when the players try a forward pass and it's intercepted cue fans having a go, keep the ball whilst we wait for an appropriate chance to score cue fans having a go. It's difficult.
The numbers this season have been fantastic and that alone deserves more than two wins, but the crowd are 100% not helping matters, and I'd say they're hindering efforts. Time to forget about our woes this season and just back the lads for 90 mins, fans were behind team vs Chelsea and it made such a big difference
Poyet's tactics and team selections. That's what's holding us back imo. The Boo boys aren't helping and I wish to god they'd pack it in but it's Poyet who's getting it wrong before a ball is kicked.
I think he realises now that things need to change, it's going to be really hard playing at home now though, which is **** because we've got home games we really should be winning coming up.