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If you must know, I spoke to a Norwegian journo about five years ago who suggested Rosler would be moving to the PL at some point. I followed his path from that point and was pleased when he moved to Brentford as it showed he was willing to build his way up. I am not interested in his jobs in Norway. I am interested in his methods, his character and his philosophy - all of which are what we require at this moment in time. There are dozens of articles you can read about him if you so wish. Simply looking at stats on Wiki is like only reading 'A' in the dictionary - he's a fascinating character and one which, six months ago would have been lauded as an appointment. A couple of bad months at a disjointed club such as Wigan changes nothing in my opinion. He'll have weaknesses, as all people do, but he has talent.
 
Great post Rob, but to take on your point of being concerned the board will make a poor decision, it's not so much appointing a manager who will fail (as you say, most do in the end), it's about the logic behind a) keeping Hughton as long as they did; b) sacking him when they did and c) appointing Adams, a novice, when experience was key. They could have appointed Sir Alex in the summer and he failed miserably - it wouldn't make it the wrong appointment but it's not a surprise to see concern at what they do next
 
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Compared to Robert Chase Hitler was a nice man & probably less ruthless...
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For a variety of reasons I seem to have spent most of the last 24 hours in my car and have been listening to Radio Norfolk who, to be fair, have given good lengthy coverage to events at Carrow Road except when that idiot Rob Butler turns up. A caller this morning said that the Club had not been run properly since the fans unfairly forced Robert Chase out and if Delia really did love the Club she would GIVE her shares to Chase so he could return and sort out ( his very words) ' the current playing and financial shambles ' Another caller yesterday challenged whether City did scour Europe for a Manager in the summer saying that Chelsea, Man U and Man City got one so they are there. When Chris Goreham said we could not look at that level of Manager the caller indignantly responded ' only because we lack ambition. Offer Mourinho enough money and he will come' And I get told on here that part of the problem is not unrealistic expectations of a section of our fans!!!!
 
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For a variety of reasons I seem to have spent most of the last 24 hours in my car and have been listening to Radio Norfolk who, to be fair, have given good lengthy coverage to events at Carrow Road except when that idiot Rob Butler turns up. A caller this morning said that the Club had not been run properly since the fans unfairly forced Robert Chase out and if Delia really did love the Club she would GIVE her shares to Chase so he could return and sort out ( his very words) ' the current playing and financial shambles ' Another caller yesterday challenged whether City did scour Europe for a Manager in the summer saying that Chelsea, Man U and Man City got one so they are there. When Chris Goreham said we could not look at that level of Manager the caller indignantly responded ' only because we lack ambition. Offer Mourinho enough money and he will come' And I get told on here that part of the problem is not unrealistic expectations of a section of our fans!!!!
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Needs to be sectioned!
 
Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed said:
If you must know, I spoke to a Norwegian journo about five years ago who suggested Rosler would be moving to the PL at some point. I followed his path from that point and was pleased when he moved to Brentford as it showed he was willing to build his way up. I am not interested in his jobs in Norway. I am interested in his methods, his character and his philosophy - all of which are what we require at this moment in time. There are dozens of articles you can read about him if you so wish. Simply looking at stats on Wiki is like only reading 'A' in the dictionary - he's a fascinating character and one which, six months ago would have been lauded as an appointment. A couple of bad months at a disjointed club such as Wigan changes nothing in my opinion. He'll have weaknesses, as all people do, but he has talent.
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If you must know I have never spoken spoken to a Norwegian journo in my life nor have I studied the character, philosophy or methods of any little known East German Coach. All I do know (from Wiki) is that he couldn't hold down a job in Norway, did well at Brentford ( from my own knowledge) but they have done better since he left and ( from my own knowledge ) got sacked from Wigan because they were in the relegation zone( fact), he had made bad buys(fact) and had lost the dressing room because of his methods, character and philosophy ( newspaper rumour) You might be right and Rosler could turn out to be the required Messiah but all I can say is that there is little in his record to support that view. Not for the first time - we will have to agree to differ. .
 
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I've got this awful feeling of de ja vue and that I'm going to be extremely underwhelmed once again when the appointment is made

GROUNDHOG DAY !
 
I agree with what Rob's saying to a large extent and whilst the board are getting bashed for their appointments post Lambert, let us not forget that most of us bar Carabuh were pretty happy to get Hughton when he was appointed. Now I can't really defend the appointment of Adams as I along with pretty much everyone else just could not see it succeeding. But since McNally has been with the club:

Lambert - Looked like a big gamble on someone with limited previous success but some experience - Great appointment
Hughton - Looked a good move for a solid manager to steady the ship, some previous success and good level of experience - OK appointment (Delayed sacking let the board down and I think was the main reason for the questioning of their judgement)
Adams - Cheap, inexperienced, minimal previous success - Stupifying move, no matter what you think of Adams performance over his short reign (Adequate at best) it was always a very misguided appointment and I still can't get my head round why it was made.

So with a recent record of one good, one bad and a bland middling effort the board at least whilst in its current incarnation has not done so bad.
Who ever gets the hot seat next my expectations will be relatively low, if we make the playoffs I will be happy, from here as long as the new incumbant has us heading in some sort of coherent direction and looking better at the end of the season than when he starts.

Not sure who it should be, I reckon Phelan will get the gig, I wouldn't be overwhelmed with that given his lack of managerial experience, but as long as he takes it as caretaker till the summer and no long term contract then it could be OK. My hope would then be either Phelan succeeding or in the summer or whenever a better candidate came along, we could move quickly for the person we want.
To that end, I would have to say that if Everton don't improve soon Martinez could become available and I'd certainly take him! Attractive football and he would be good for giving the club some footballing identity from youth to 1st XI.
But thats all by the by because he'd have to get sacked first and that probably won't happen.

Bah!
 
General Melchett said:
I agree with what Rob's saying to a large extent and whilst the board are getting bashed for their appointments post Lambert, let us not forget that most of us bar Carabuh were pretty happy to get Hughton when he was appointed. Now I can't really defend the appointment of Adams as I along with pretty much everyone else just could not see it succeeding. But since McNally has been with the club:

Lambert - Looked like a big gamble on someone with limited previous success but some experience - Great appointment
Hughton - Looked a good move for a solid manager to steady the ship, some previous success and good level of experience - OK appointment (Delayed sacking let the board down and I think was the main reason for the questioning of their judgement)
Adams - Cheap, inexperienced, minimal previous success - Stupifying move, no matter what you think of Adams performance over his short reign (Adequate at best) it was always a very misguided appointment and I still can't get my head round why it was made.

So with a recent record of one good, one bad and a bland middling effort the board at least whilst in its current incarnation has not done so bad.
Who ever gets the hot seat next my expectations will be relatively low, if we make the playoffs I will be happy, from here as long as the new incumbant has us heading in some sort of coherent direction and looking better at the end of the season than when he starts.

Not sure who it should be, I reckon Phelan will get the gig, I wouldn't be overwhelmed with that given his lack of managerial experience, but as long as he takes it as caretaker till the summer and no long term contract then it could be OK. My hope would then be either Phelan succeeding or in the summer or whenever a better candidate came along, we could move quickly for the person we want.
To that end, I would have to say that if Everton don't improve soon Martinez could become available and I'd certainly take him! Attractive football and he would be good for giving the club some footballing identity from youth to 1st XI.
But thats all by the by because he'd have to get sacked first and that probably won't happen.

Bah!
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After Bournemouth Tonk you 7-0 on Saturday why not go for Eddie Howe! <whistle>
 
General Melchett said:
Not sure who it should be, I reckon Phelan will get the gig, I wouldn't be overwhelmed with that given his lack of managerial experience, but as long as he takes it as caretaker till the summer and no long term contract then it could be OK. My hope would then be either Phelan succeeding or in the summer or whenever a better candidate came along, we could move quickly for the person we want.
To that end, I would have to say that if Everton don't improve soon Martinez could become available and I'd certainly take him! Attractive football and he would be good for giving the club some footballing identity from youth to 1st XI.
But thats all by the by because he'd have to get sacked first and that probably won't happen.


Bah!
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That would probably be one of the few appointments that would not divide the City faithful right down the middle. I just wish there were more like him knocking around.
 
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