Both would be far better than RobinsonThus proving that you'll never please everyone!
Both would be far better than RobinsonThus proving that you'll never please everyone!
No they wouldn't.Both would be far better than Robinson
I beg to differBoth would be far better than Robinson
I'm not sure 'Jane' is the answer!
Just shows it's about opinions. I know a couple of MK fans and they fear that if he goes they will collapse, that he's progressive and talented and is destined for bigger things.
I'd still rather have Rosler anyway. Sadly I don't trust the board to make the right appointment anymore.
Can't type maybe we could be the first CCC side with a female manager !I'm not sure 'Jane' is the answer!
Just shows it's about opinions. I know a couple of MK fans and they fear that if he goes they will collapse, that he's progressive and talented and is destined for bigger things.
I'd still rather have Rosler anyway. Sadly I don't trust the board to make the right appointment anymore.
Compared to Robert Chase Hitler was a nice man & probably less ruthless...Morning all,
Thought I would just share this with you all, Robert Chase (yes THE Mr Robert Chase), has just visited my company on business and well, the goings on at NCFC were obviously mentioned. He seemed more than happy to talk and having resisted the temptation to grill him over the lack of ambition in '89 when investment in the strike force could have possibly seen us win 'the double', he was asked his opinion of Mike Phelan. He was quick to tell us that it was he who brought him to the club initially back in the eighties and considered him a 'nice man' but not 'ruthless' enough to do the job on his own.
Flys in the face of what I thought, I always got the impression that he was not the kind of guy you would want to cross. Having said that of course, that was way back when and people do change.
Compared to Robert Chase Hitler was a nice man & probably less ruthless...
Morning all,
Thought I would just share this with you all, Robert Chase (yes THE Mr Robert Chase), has just visited my company on business and well, the goings on at NCFC were obviously mentioned. He seemed more than happy to talk and having resisted the temptation to grill him over the lack of ambition in '89 when investment in the strike force could have possibly seen us win 'the double', he was asked his opinion of Mike Phelan. He was quick to tell us that it was he who brought him to the club initially back in the eighties and considered him a 'nice man' but not 'ruthless' enough to do the job on his own.
Flys in the face of what I thought, I always got the impression that he was not the kind of guy you would want to cross. Having said that of course, that was way back when and people do change.
Porto?Interesting. Probably why he's always been an assistant, whilst the man he replaced at Manure went on to manage half a dozen clubs.
Still, I know one club who will happily employ someone with no managerial experience.
My point is, you know absolutely nothing about his style of play, approach, personality. You've just quickly checked him out on Wiki. You basically no next to nothing about his career whereas I've followed his path for a few years.
Back to City, we are now in a far weaker position than we were in the summer. For starters, managers prefer to have the summer months to work with a squad. Now whoever comes in will have a 10 point deficit, a morale-sapped team and huge squad to sift through.
We really did cock up massively by giving the gig to Adams but it's over now - we are where we are - and we have to either make a clever short term appointment or take a long term vision and go for someone like Robinson.
Quite why anyone would suggest they'd be underwhelmed with him when they weren't with Adams is beyond a joke. Barking mad some people.
I was a tad perplexed as to why the poster scoffed at the thought of you getting Rosler's stats from Wiki then went on about if you had followed his career like him then etc etc.I accept that I haven't followed his career and got some of my information off Wiki but it doesn't change the facts. In 3 jobs in Norway he got the sack twice and didn't get the third job full time despite, apparently, doing well in his 8 games on a short term contract. He did well at Brentford but they have done better since he left and was sacked by a very supportive owner at Wigan because he had took them into the relegation zone, he had, allegedly, made bad buys and had, allegedly, lost the dressing room because of his style of play. I have no more objection to Rosler than to any of the other names mentioned but I find nothing in his record to date to support your view that he should be our next Manager. I agree with you that Robinson might do a decent job but it would cost us a lot of money, he would want to bring his own backroom staff with the inevitable cost and upheaval at Carrow Road and, as I have said elsewhere, I cannot see why he would want to come in any case especially as he would realise that the same unrealistic fans would turn on him at the end of the season unless he got us promoted.
The problem with assessing managers is that they are almost always doomed to fail. It's pretty much a given that every manager will get sacked. Even Mourinho has essentially been sacked several times.
It's also impossible to find a manager who will 100% guarantee success. You might find a manager who will almost guarantee success with limitless funds, but even with limitless funds there's no guarantee, let alone on a budget (as we remain).
So basically, while it's an empty statement I think it's true to say that there is very little point quibbling over the finer aspects of who we should appoint based on their records. The only real disagreements are about managerial experience, style and personality which mostly come down to personal opinion and preference.
If you like Rosler's or Robinson's style, then I get why you'd be keen on either of them. If you're concerned about how he would fit in at our club and the extent of their respective experience, I understand why you would have reservations about them.
Personally, I would like to see either of them at our club as I like their style and the flavour (particularly) of Robinson's successes so far. I think he would suit us. But I don't think for a minute that either of them will definitely be successful with us. I'd actually say that both of them have less than 50% chance of being successful with us. The managers I think with a better chance of being successful (e.g. Pulis) I would expect to be too divisive or impossible to get hold of.
I don't mean to suggest we shouldn't debate which manager and why nor say that you shouldn't look at their records - you should, they are important - just that it in no way guarantees success with us.
But given the lack of guarantee of success, I really cannot understand those saying they have lost faith in appointments by the board. How can anyone lose faith in something that is largely a roll of the dice anyway? The board are still managing the club well. They made a great roll of the dice in appointing Lambert for which we are still reaping the dividends. We are infinitely better off now than we were 5 years ago. If the next roll doesn't work out, I'm confident one after that will. I merely hope it is sooner rather than later.
