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General Matchday Thread

Discussion in 'Everton' started by shogs, Apr 16, 2013.

  1. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Have to miss tonight as I can't get away from work early enough
     
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  2. Tobes

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    Same here, got a meeting at 5.30 that'll go on until about 7 ffs.
     
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  3. Justovertheline

    Justovertheline Well-Known Member

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    I'm night shift great eh lol
     
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    Well 2-0 flatters us at HT we have done ****all but somehow we are In front...
     
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  5. Justovertheline

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    More pedestrian sideways and backwards play today away to a good Southampton side means Its 2-0 down so far...The lack of a plan B Is killing us this season Lukaku and Baines need benching too

    May as well give Kone a go as Romelu aint worth £2.80 at the moment never mind 28 million also get Oviedo fit and back In give Baines something to think about
     
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  6. Tobes

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    Absolutely ****ing ****e. A side off the back of 5 straight defeats and facing an injury / suspension crisis, cruise past us and we looked like we couldn't give a toss.

    He needs to get a ****ing grip
     
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  7. Justovertheline

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    Must say I thought that with no Europey and a decent looking set of fixtures coming up we could go on a run but I'm afraid we are looking exactly where we are at the moment and that's mid table...
     
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  8. Tobes

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    Why didn't he make a single substitution ffs? They were strolling around not giving a toss and he should have sent a message to them that it's not on, by giving 3 of them the hook, but no, he does **** all.

    We've been sussed pure and simple, we have one way of playing and sides have learnt how to negate it. The egotistical twat will no doubt plough on regardless and fail to even question what the **** he's doing.

    I'm ****ing fuming, ruined my weekend that, **** off Everton
     
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  9. Justovertheline

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    Yup absolutely ****ing ridiculous <grr>
     
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  10. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Its that good old knee jerk reaction we have, I love our fans.

    We were all happy singing about the return of the school of science......and now we have been rumbled?

    When Martinez tried out three at the back people shouted "but we need a flat back four" Well that is not the way he sets up or wants to play. We have gone from having the third meanest defence to leaking goals and this is down to palyer form and individual mistakes.

    To call Lukaku a flop is crazy, he is 21 FFS. People say the Yak went off the boil, maybe its the same fans pressure and moaning that leads to this?
     
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  11. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    And to be fair I was on my works xmas do and have not seen the game yet.

    But we bossed chances, shots and the Rodgers fav posession.....so how were we so bad?
     
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    ???? If you're talking about the Saints game you did not boss chances and shots. You had no clear cut chances - we had 4 or 5. All your shots were from outside the box.
     
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    Abysmal
     
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    Is it? Our defending lacks the intensity that it did under Moyes imo. We're not picking up from set pieces properly, we're not working hard enough to close down crosses, shooting positions from the edge of the box and we're losing runners from midfield. You can't put all of it down to individual errors and poor form, as using that logic the manager would have no responsibility when it's going well either.....

    No-one's called Lukaku a flop, JOTL merely suggested he should be dropped, and it's hard to argue otherwise. His performance level has been poor of late, albeit we've not been supplying him with much ammunition tbf, but his overall game has been half arsed imo.

    Martinez lack of a plan b is starting to become tedious, as sides have figured us out, it's obvious to a blind man.
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Tell us how you would fix it then Tobes?
     
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    I'd hire a top drawer defensive coach for a start off.

    Martinez game management is non existent, as he doesn't have an alternative strategy that he's prepared to use. So when we face a side who presses us high, and stifles us from playing the ball out from the back, he just ploughs on with it, even though it's patently not working.

    Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of madness, and yet he still continues with some of his idiotic 'square peg round hole' team selections and his tedious tiki taka, own half possession football.
     
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  17. Justovertheline

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    He could at least mix it up a bit even if it means smacking the odd long ball up at the moment we play one way the end...
     
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    He could at least mix it up a bit even if it means smacking the odd long ball up at the moment we play one way the end...
     
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  19. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    So we have gone from a manager who played dour defensive football that relied on workhorse players and square pegs in round holes to a manager who has trasnformed players who were always looking to release the ball to players who want and demand the ball and are comfortable in posession. A manager who helped us to our best ever points haul while playing a tika-taka sideways game that people raved about.

    being more solid defensively is all down to having a solid and settled back four......but equally him giving licence to Barkley and Mirallas to not do any real work in the defensive third.....this is where your tracking...or lack of runner tracking comes from, we did the same last season and how people(managers) never figured that our after 10 games who had not yet played us is a shock and why did it take every team a season to figure it out?
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    The amount of times this season I have seen eto'o, rom naismith have the ball knocked to them and lost is amazing. So to say we only play with a plan a is crazy!
     
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