Councillor Parnaby sticking his nose in...

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Chilton's Hundreds said:
Are you on a wind-up ?

"Every backing" will not include financial support. How can a council possibly offer support when it is under pressure from central government to make cuts to local services ? It's political suicide.

No, "Every backing" is more likely to mean identifying land in the East Riding that may be suitable for building a new stadium and offering the club support in the planning process. It MAY even include a joint venture of a new stadium and retail development between club and council but only on the basis that it is an investment by the council that will generate jobs and revenue.

But anyone that thinks the ERYCC will be lending money to Hull City will be disappointed - that isn't going to happen.
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I have fed a new 30,000 seater football stadium and associated retail development at Melton into my planningapprovalometer. It just gave me the answer - 0% chance of success.

Allam is sabre-rattling in the hope that a few local loud mouths will somehow sway the FA appeal. It is astoundingly feeble.
 
Obadiah said:
He is the leader of East Yorkshire Council. He's been a councillor for decades. If he wanted to give moral support he'd have written the motion that way. East Yorkshire Council were asked, like Hull City Council for their views on the name change by the FA before the decision.

If I was a councillor I'd want to see a motion that clearly set out what support the Council was expected to give and whether it included any financial support. Councillor Parnaby's motion puts no limit on what backing the Council can give Hull City AFC. If an 18 year old newly elected councillor had written it I would have given him or her some slack, but Councillor Parnaby is old enough, with lots of experience, to know better.
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He expressly said in the chamber, that this was not a vote on support for a name change, nor for a stadium move, it was just a vote on what a nice chap Allam was.
 
Well, that was two and a half hours I'm never getting back.

What a complete and utter waste of time.

Parnaby just read out his motion, then read a load of Allam quotes from the HDM, then told everyone it wasn't a vote on a name change or a stadium move, but merely on what a thoroughly lovely chap Allam is.

Some really old bloke then told some rather irrelevant story about Kevin Keegan, then Mike Whitehead stood up and did some gushing of his own. Nobody objected, nobody questioned what 'every backing' meant and it was unanimously carried by a room with an average age of 86.

It went on so long, my meter ran out and I didn't even have time for a pint, just enough time to confirm to RH and the HDM that it had been a complete waste of time and was utterly meaningless.
 
Allam wants a stadium, end of. If he gets it in Hull or Melton he'll drop the name change and continue as owner. All this is proposal is doing is trying to force HCC hand
 
mauled1904 said:
Allam wants a stadium, end of. If he gets it in Hull or Melton he'll drop the name change and continue as owner. All this is proposal is doing is trying to force HCC hand
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Rubbish, he won't even talk to HCC about buying theirs and he can't afford to build a new one in Melton, he's just having a strop.
 
originallambrettaman said:
Well, that was two and a half hours I'm never getting back.

What a complete and utter waste of time.

Parnaby just read out his motion, then read a load of Allam quotes from the HDM, then told everyone it wasn't a vote on a name change or a stadium move, but merely on what a thoroughly lovely chap Allam is.

Some really old bloke then told some rather irrelevant story about Kevin Keegan, then Mike Whitehead stood up and did some gushing of his own. Nobody objected, nobody questioned what 'every backing' meant and it was unanimously carried by a room with an average age of 86.

It went on so long, my meter ran out and I didn't even have time for a pint, just enough time to confirm to RH and the HDM that it had been a complete waste of time and was utterly meaningless.
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The real reason you came out of the meeting pissed off?
 
AlRawdah said:
I have fed a new 30,000 seater football stadium and associated retail development at Melton into my planningapprovalometer. It just gave me the answer - 0% chance of success.

Allam is sabre-rattling in the hope that a few local loud mouths will somehow sway the FA appeal. It is astoundingly feeble.
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Not necessarily Melton.

Financial constraints aside, I'm sure if AA approached the ERYCC and asked 'Identify some land on which to develop a stadium/leisure/retail' they would.
 
Chilton's Hundreds said:
It's a hypothetical question.

Dunno who owns the land but what about the land west of Priory Rd, just over the Hull/ER boundary.

Or the land on A1079 near Beverley High Rd/Kingswood roundabout

Even off the A164.
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The Beverley Rd land was/is the site for the park and ride, but there are some disputes over it.

The Priory Rd land is possibly owned by Hull CC but is green belt land. The road infrastructure would never cope either.
 
Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
The Beverley Rd land was/is the site for the park and ride, but there are some disputes over it.

The Priory Rd land is possibly owned by Hull CC but is green belt land. The road infrastructure would never cope either.
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Where there's a will there's a way, literally. An access road from the A164 - Allam Way or something.

OK, I'm not being entirely serious but my point is that everyone assumes Melton is the chosen site for any potential new stadium. That's not necessarily the case, a stadium just outside the City boundary would not have the same stigma and would be readily accepted by fans.

Anyway, it's probably never going to happen........is it ??
 
Chilton's Hundreds said:
Where there's a will there's a way, literally. An access road from the A164 - Allam Way or something.

OK, I'm not being entirely serious but my point is that everyone assumes Melton is the chosen site for any potential new stadium. That's not necessarily the case, a stadium just outside the City boundary would not have the same stigma and would be readily accepted by fans.

Anyway, it's probably never going to happen........is it ??
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Two words - SMOKE and FIRE.......
 
A new stadium is going to cost upwards of £100 million, maybe more. We made a profit of £8 million last year. We've spent that already on transfers this season. We'll get more income due to the price rises and increased sponsorship but our wage bill has increased as well. Allam Marine made £11 million last year.

He cannot afford to keep buying players never mind pay for a brand new stadium.

He has laid solid foundations for a move to the next step, but he hasn't got the cash to take us there. I think that's the real reason we are up for sale (coupled, maybe with his age and his health). I expect us to be sold before the end of the season.
 
mauled1904 said:
Allam wants a stadium, end of. If he gets it in Hull or Melton he'll drop the name change and continue as owner. All this is proposal is doing is trying to force HCC hand
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He wanted a stadium in the beginning, now, he's in too deep and just wants out. Sooner, rather than later, would suit all parties.
 
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Obadiah said:
A new stadium is going to cost upwards of £100 million, maybe more. We made a profit of £8 million last year. We've spent that already on transfers this season. We'll get more income due to the price rises and increased sponsorship but our wage bill has increased as well. Allam Marine made £11 million last year.

He cannot afford to keep buying players never mind pay for a brand new stadium.

He has laid solid foundations for a move to the next step, but he hasn't got the cash to take us there. I think that's the real reason we are up for sale (coupled, maybe with his age and his health). I expect us to be sold before the end of the season.
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Okay, now you're making sense. The sooner the better for me.
 
Castro's Coffin said:
He is City fan who attends more matches than a lot on here who have plenty to say about City. As a fan he is entitled to give his opinion, certainly more entitled than Hull councillors and MPs who don't go to City but Who Hull people keep voting in for some reasons.
His opinion as a politician should be ignited as should others.
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Not when he brings it up as a motion in council chambers. If he kept it personal that would be OK.
 
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