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Scottish Independence

Discussion in 'Watford' started by Leo, Aug 18, 2014.

  1. scullyonthewing

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    Blair in fact saved the labour party from extinction. It would have been better for the country if the loony left kept digging up the likes of Foot and Kinnock. The country was sick and tired of being held to ransom by Scargill, red robbo and fellow anarchists funded by the soviets.
     
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  2. Spurf

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    It is extinct already for many.
     
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  3. Leo

    Leo Well-Known Member

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    You could be describing yourself here. No time is wasted though in an attempt to prevent someone with a nasty political agenda using this forum to pretend he cares about Scottish independence when in truth he is promoting an extreme left wing cause. Your mind is totally closed. You have not listened to one argument from others on here. You have insulted all of us - and then occasionally fed scraps of niceness to pretend you are not always rude. I have tried to get you to open your mind to the fact that the Yes campaign has refused to enter the real debate and tell us how they deal with the reality of a post Yes world - thy cannot and will not. It is you rather than me who is prejudiced - it menas pre- judge and you are guilty of that - as you listen to no arguments but parrot Yes propaganda. It may interest you to know that I honestly do not care which way the vote goes. Of course it should be NO as a Yes vote is bad for Scotland and the UK - however I am quite inclined to beleive if people want to shoot themselves in the foot they are entitled to do it.

    More name calling. Who are the bigots come on name them and provide your evidence. You have shown yourself incapable of using reason as you fail to adjust your position in the face of new facts and questions - you are fixed to spouting Yes propaganda.

    The Yes campaign has been very well organised and very clever. The NO campaign has been pathetic. For Yes to con a lot of the people a lot of the time has been impressive. They need to thank their American tutors in grass roots delivery of dogmatic positions.

    You hypocrite - you have denigrated almost all of us much of the time and have turned most of your anger towards me as I have been most vocal in showing up your paucity of argument. Even now you suggest that the referendum which you acknowledge to be unique in some way portends how Scots will behave in future elections. They will return to their normal apathy. Again you show your left wing Socialist Workers Party credentials trotting out this 1000 year elite garbage.

    I admit you have helped make this thread prosper. However your contribution to the debate has been almost non existent outside of Yes dogma. YOu still refuse to accept that the Scots are being asked to step off a cliff into the unknown and that Salmond has refused to provide any honest answers.

    I will be glad when you return to your own board as debates without you rarely involve the degree of personal abuse you appear to find normal.
     
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  4. scullyonthewing

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    It took a week for the lefties to turn on Hollande when his promises turned to dust. How long would Salmond and his sidekick have?
     
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  5. Leo

    Leo Well-Known Member

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    Salmond will get shunted out at the next election. Labour see this as the perfect opportunity to create a socialist state. That is what the code for a new era in politics actually means. They lost England when the LAbour Party there grew up and realised that Benn, Kinnock, Foot politics had been crushed but see Scotland as fertile soil. The SNP will have lost its raison d'etre once they have won so will see support drift back to Labour.

    I feel for anyone in Scotland who wants to earn decent money to have a good life for their family - it will all be taxed away to pay for freeloaders. We rejected that here in 1979. Oh and their added bonus they get CND too. Scotland will hide under a nuclear umbrella that someone else will pay for - but that is what Socialism is about :)
     
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  6. Bloother

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    Give up Leo. Smurf has been weighed, he has been measured and he has absolutely been found wanting.
     
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  7. johnnywarksmoustache

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    The Scots wont be able to play the National Lottery or Euro Millions.
     
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  8. Leo

    Leo Well-Known Member

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    :) - that is my problem - I always refuse to give up on anyone - nobody is a lost cause - I might just hit on the one thing that will show Spurf the light :)
     
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  9. Jsybarry

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    They voted Yes
















    To women joining St Andrews golf club
     
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  11. Saxet

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    I have stayed out of this so far, but....

    As a proud anglo-Scot and an even prouder British citizen, I would urge all the residents of the great country of Scotland to think long and hard before casting your vote on this historic day.

    Our rich history together, our economic success, our great military and our keen rivalry between the countries of The Union is in the balance.

    For ALL our sakes and the future of The United Kingdom - vote NO today.
     
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  12. Saxet

    Saxet Well-Known Member

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    That vote will be rescinded if it's a 'Yes'. Back to the Middle Ages wi' ye.
     
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  13. vic-rijrode

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    A laudable plea, but possibly a little late......
     
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  14. Saxet

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    Yeah - my Interweb was down thanks to Corporate America. Hmmm - perhaps Texas should demand inde.....

    Ah forget it.
     
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  15. wear_yellow

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    Whatever the result, the one big positive is that the Spud will no longer bother us.
     
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  16. aberdeenhornet

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    Is it safe to return?
     
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  17. pongo1963

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    Sitting here listening to the results coming in and the NO votes seem to be marginally winning does this mean that after all the promises made to Scotland we can go back to hating them again LOL
     
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  18. yorkshirehornet

    yorkshirehornet Well-Known Member

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    YES!!!! Phew.......

    and the UK pound soars.......

    Bring on federalism across the union
     
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  19. wear_yellow

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    Bye bye a Spud, it's not been a pleasure...time to totter off and troll elsewhere
     
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  20. aberdeenhornet

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    Thanks be to God common sense prevails and the jingoistic nationalists (nazis) can crawl back under their rocks and I can return to a United Kingdom a free man and not have to suffer the indignity of suffering a moronic existence, ciao to the idiotic separatists and lets hop e=this brings the promised better together outcome and prosperous Scotland and UK we all deserve..
     
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