Its only Hull

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Billy ask Queue said:
The main reaction from opposing teams supporters when we beat them is " how could we lose to them , its only Hull "
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originallambrettaman said:
Nobody has, the discussion is about Hull, not about Hull City.
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The thread was about the football club but quickly the reason for us being seen in a negative light was brought around to the city of Hull being bombed in second world war.

Coventry was also bombed heavily but it didn't stop them from being a top flight club for most of the post war era bar the last 10 years.
 
Stockholm Tiger said:
The thread was about the football club but quickly the reason for us being seen in a negative light was brought around to the city of Hull being bombed in second world war.

Coventry was also bombed heavily but it didn't stop them from being a top flight club for most of the post war era bar the last 10 years.
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The reference to bombings was a reason given for Hull being perceived as a bit ****, not for the football club performing badly, just as Coventry is also seen as being a bit ****.
 
Hull said:
Eh? I think you need to know the subject before making such specious statements.
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Alright then I'll leave it to you to prove me wrong........
Starting with the mighty Featherstone Rovers.....
Widnes......
Or what about the town of St Helens ?
The mining hamlet of Castleford......?
Not forgetting that we are constantly reminded that Hull is the capital of rugby league, the only true city derby, yawn, and so on.
Come on prove me wrong, And I know plenty about the subject.
 
Just joined this forum - 1st post :) Interesting views on this subject.

I quite like it when pundits dismiss Hull and then it is backed up by beating the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and then more recently Liverpool and Newcastle. I think it is better to be out of the limelight and just let the manager get on with the job of keeping us up.

Re WW2 etc., my personal view is that following the defeat of Germany in WW1, the reparations the Allies wanted form Germany were so crippling to the country that when some bloke stands up and gives the German people a reason for losing the war (namely Jews, Communists and anyone else that he didn’t like) and they are so brain washed that they buy into it or are forced at gunpoint to go along with it, that there was no escaping WW2. I know it is a bit farfetched, but I blame the Nazis for the war, not necessarily Germans, but I can understand why they would want to lash out at a Europe that humiliated them so badly in 1919. So in an indirect way, the end of WW1 caused WW2.

As one poster rightly said the RAF looked after Germany through the airlift, so I believe that Allies had learned what to do with a defeated country, although I suspect that Communist Russia taking half of Germany and the capital was more likely the reason.

Re bombing of Hull, it is a fact that German bombers unloaded on Hull as they knew where it was on their way home, but did anyone know that the opposite side of the Humber, South Ferriby, Barton etc. had lights erected to look exactly like the Hull docks from the air so that the Germans would bomb there rather than Hull docks. That is a fact, although I am not sure how much it helped as Hull was very heavily bombed.

Another factor in Hull's lack of regeneration or indeed its late regeneration is the docks in the 70s when the authorities wanted Hull to be a container port and the docker unions rejected the idea, meaning that they went over to N Lincs essentially ruining the docking industry in Hull as the fishing dried up.

I am boring the pants off myself now <yawn>

UTT and let&#8217;s take 12 points plus a Wembley trip of the Mackems and Geordies over the next 2 weeks!!!! :-)
 
busdriver said:
It was tit for tat bombing. When Hull was bombed we (The Allies) bombed Dresden. And so on. Liverpool's civic leaders went squealing to the Government after one such air raid and asked to be omitted. They wanted no part of it. Interesting today on Albert Dock, Liverpool make more of a big deal then Hull does about their involvement in WW2 without mentioning anywhere that they wanted and asked permission to throw the towel in.
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Dresden was bombed at the request of the Soviets to support their advance as they thought it an important transport centre.
 
busdriver said:
Alright then I'll leave it to you to prove me wrong........
Starting with the mighty Featherstone Rovers.....
Widnes......
Or what about the town of St Helens ?
The mining hamlet of Castleford......?
Not forgetting that we are constantly reminded that Hull is the capital of rugby league, the only true city derby, yawn, and so on.
Come on prove me wrong, And I know plenty about the subject.
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And of course Sheffield Eagles did after 5 years what FC have never managed, win at Wembley. And in doing so had won the Cup in 5 years as many times Rovers had in over 100 years.
 
busdriver said:
No offence but read your history books.
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How the **** would Gerry know if Liverpool approved of the bombings or not?

Did they paint 'scousers say no' on the side of the bombs?

What could they be omitted from, a list of towns who don't approve of bombings?

Point me to a history book, as it makes **** all sense to me.
 
busdriver said:
The two rugby league clubs have got away with it for years.
Yet no-one draws comparisions between them and tiny clubs like Castleford, Wakefield, Featherstone, Widnes, Sheffield Eagles etc etc all who have won more silverware then the two Hull clubs put together.
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busdriver said:
Alright then I'll leave it to you to prove me wrong........
Starting with the mighty Featherstone Rovers.....
Widnes......
Or what about the town of St Helens ?
The mining hamlet of Castleford......?
Not forgetting that we are constantly reminded that Hull is the capital of rugby league, the only true city derby, yawn, and so on.
Come on prove me wrong, And I know plenty about the subject.
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Must I get smooth on your ass...

Adressing your original point.

Hull FC honours

League Championships (6): 1919–20, 1920–21, 1935–36, 1955–56, 1957–58, 1982–83

Challenge Cups (3): 1913–14, 1981–82, 2005

Hull KR honours

League Championships (5): 1922–23, 1924–25, 1978–79, 1983–84, 1984–85

Challenge Cup (1): 1979–80

Fetherstone Rovers honours

League Championship (1): 1976–77

Challenge Cup (3): 1967, 1973, 1983

Wakefield honours

League Championship (2): 1966–67, 1967–68

Challenge Cup (5): 1908–09, 1945–46, 1959–60, 1961–62, 1962–63

Castleford honours

League Championships: None

Challenge Cup (4): 1934-35, 1968–69, 1969–70, 1985-86

And so on. None of them have more silverware than the two Hull clubs put together.

Now watch a chinese waiter getting smooth on your ass...

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Hull and Rovers - one Wembley win between em <laugh>

Fev (pop. 15,000) - 3

Wakey- 5

Cas - 4

Does that help?
 
Stuart Blampey said:
Hull and Rovers - one Wembley win between em <laugh>

Fev (pop. 15,000) - 3

Wakey- 5

Cas - 4

Does that help?
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Let's forget the league titles shall we.

My point wasn't proving the Hull and Rovers have a **** hot history, because they ain't and I don't care that much.

I'm just challenging bullshit.
 
Hull said:
Let's forget the league titles shall we.

My point wasn't proving the Hull and Rovers have a **** hot history, because they ain't and I don't care that much.

I'm just challenging bullshit.
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Mine was that Hull and Rovers are small fish in a small pool.
 
Stuart Blampey said:
Only in the minds of their own deluded supporters are these two big hitters.

Saints, Wigan Leeds etc all on a another level.
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Im being so bold as to suggest a mid ground between the big hitters and small fish.

I'm plaicing them in medium sized fish ground.
 
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