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Name change discussion

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by RicardoHCAFC, Jan 2, 2014.

  1. FILEYseadog

    FILEYseadog Well-Known Member

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    I really don't care what journalists etc write.

    They don't support the club.

    I bet most of them have never been to a game at the KC or BP.

    Even IF they favour the name change ..
    Or don't mind .

    I make up my own mind on this subject as we all do.

    Some hate the idea.....fine
    Some like the idea.....fine.

    And some like me don't mind either way.

    2 home games this week.

    BRILLIANT.

    UTT.
     
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  2. The Omega Man

    The Omega Man Well-Known Member

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    There is no real comparison between Vincent Tan and Assem Allam other than they are club owners who want to make changes.
    Assem Allam is not a bad owner.
    He does not involve himself with the running of the team.
    He has hired a great manager, one who is left alone to get on with his job.
    Funds have been made available when asked for.
    He kept the price of tickets down.

    Ok so he wants to change the name, that doesn't make him a bad owner. Posters say he lies, but how does that balance with his rash statements. He says things that he shouldn't and sometimes has to backtrack. It does make him a lier.

    I would not want to be employed or do business with him personally. But some of the ****e that is thrown on here is plain crazy.

    Can't we just ban links to Metro ****e land. You may as well copy and paste CI posts or HDM comments on here. It's meaningless drivel from self promoting pseudo jurnos.
     
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  3. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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  4. The Omega Man

    The Omega Man Well-Known Member

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    I just think its a pity that some of you Assem haters haven't got the balls to dig in and find the money to buy the club. Don't say you haven't had the chance because you have. You could have got together and stepped in when the club was for sale in 2010. The Tigers Co op was active, so if you wanted to you could have become more involved. The money was available from the banks but you sat back and let Assem Allam take the risks and now you don't like it. Now you sit on the sidelines and pick over everything that he has done badly, yet you revel in what he has done well. Two faced. "Thank you Assem" on the banners in the stadium, **** you Assem in their hearts.
    Some of you need to think about what football we could have been watching without his money.

    It's fine to attack the name change, but really, if you think he is bad, what did you think of Duffen and Bartlett?

    Start living in the real world will you.
     
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  5. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Revel in what he has done well but not giving him the credit at all. A few weeks ago Long and Jelavic were a further 14 million in debt and what a mad **** he is for increasing it.
     
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  6. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    I really don't think there are a lot of Allam haters on this board, or anywhere else for that matter.

    There are many who are disappointed with the daft things he's come out with, but not many haters.
     
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  7. Kempton

    Kempton Well-Known Member

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    I can only assume you are happy for Allam to lie in your face, as long as he keeps us in the premiere league ?
     
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  8. over18and legal

    over18and legal Well-Known Member

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    We do live in the real world. Unfortunately, it is made up of up of bullys like Allam who thinks he can whatever he wants because he is wealthy.
    This man has called Hull City supporters hooligans and in a nutshell he despises anyone who gets in his way.
     
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  9. The Omega Man

    The Omega Man Well-Known Member

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    Oh, OLM there are plenty of haters alright. Plenty on here.
     
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  10. over18and legal

    over18and legal Well-Known Member

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    I hate the hurtful things he says about my home city and how he tarnishes us as hooligans for opposing his ideas.
    Therefore, I suppose that means I hate the man.
     
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  11. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    I can't remember more than a dozen, in fact, a similar amount to those in favour of the name change.
     
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  12. ILivedTheDream

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    I like the things he has done for his home city such as his charitable donations. I still thank him for saving our club from oblivion. He could have left us to rot and bought us on the cheap. I like how he managed to convince Steve Bruce to be our manager. I like how he has backed his manager and made our team better than ever. With some on here he can do nothing right at the moment.
     
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  13. The Omega Man

    The Omega Man Well-Known Member

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    And that post is a perfect example of ****e.
     
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  14. juleskaren

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    Omega man: Tell me what will happen if the name change goes through, we get sponsorship but because Allam has refused to seek out other ways of financing the club it is not enough to keep us going, he has said he can't keep putting money into the club. What do you think he will do then because he will have alienated the core fan base, I know loads of people who will not buy merchanidise with "Hull Tigers" on it. What then, put the prices up 50%, alienate a few more supporters. Worst case scenario is that he sells to some foreign bloke who wants "The Tigers", another one of those people who know nothing about running a football club. Tell me what your vision is please.
     
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  15. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

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    I like Rick. When he's not talking bollocks on behalf of CTWD he's a good reporter, good fan and nice bloke. Much like you would be presumably.
     
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  16. over18and legal

    over18and legal Well-Known Member

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    Why do you defend the things he says. He is a moron. He comes out with things that schoolkids say.

    The S.H.I.T.E my friend comes from the mouths of those who constantly lick his A.R.S.E.
     
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  17. PLT

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    Well it clearly is.

    They're great players but we can't afford them.
     
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  18. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    Anyway Chazz that's bollocks. People are always trying to credit him with stuff thats npw to do with him. Every time the team wins a game someone posts thanking Allam for the result. It's just weird, I've never seen any other set of fans do it.

    The same few people are reluctant to talk about the finances, the stuff he's actually involved in but just keep reminding us that we're doing well on the pitch and that is somehow down to Allam.
     
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  19. The Omega Man

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    Jules

    Sponsorship at the level that we will need will not be forthcoming, anyone with half a brain knows that. What could come in is investment based on the possibility of being more attractive to the Asian marketplace. If Assem Allam has been advised that Hull Tigers is the way to go, then he has been advised wrongly. We lost the chance to put this to Assem Allam because of the other name change application.

    If the name change goes through there will be a loss of less than 10% of season ticket sales. In fact two other factors will be far more damaging than the name change relegation and a price increase.

    Assem Allam wanted the KC to develop, something that you opposed. Without tangible assets the club has little value except its contracts and its brand. Assem Allam has invested in building the clubs contract asset, he invested in the player stock and the reward is the TV rights contract. The brand is the only other significant asset available.

    I once believed that we should not just change the name of the club, but the whole principle of the clubs structure. I suggested that the club should change from HCAFC to Hull City Sporting Club and it should buy or invest in other professional local sporting clubs. It should build complexes that are capable of holding regional and national level events. Significant developments should be undertaken, such as turning Costello into a Hotel and county cricket ground simular to the Rose Bowl in Southampton. Developing sports based industries within the city to increase employment. I believed that Hull University and Hull City should develop a new centre for Sports Education.

    As I said I believed in lots of things.

    Because of my beliefs I read reports, attended meetings and lectures, developed contacts and tried to put together a viable plan. I spent hours doing the research to back up the plan.

    Then things changed. The major banks involved in so many of the community based schemes got into trouble. Community assets where under scrutiny, government grants disappeared and investors who where once keen, shied away from even talking about putting their money anywhere near football.

    So the inevitable happened, the only way the club can even start to stand on its own two feet is to be different, it has to become something that it isn't now. The name change isn't the solution. I do believe I know what the alternative is, but no one is willing to listen. Doors have become closed, its a pity, but that's the way of the world. Catering, matchday experience, more seats, forget it, not enough and not soon enough. The way forward is globalisation with major investor who needs global branding and who has the clout to do it.

    But what do I know eh?
     
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  20. The Omega Man

    The Omega Man Well-Known Member

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    No ****e comes from those who dont use a swear filter!

    Your posts are playground based, schoolkid like. Post something worthy of debate or tell us how much money you have to put into the club.
     
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