Fat Brucie at it again.

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Martinez will get it if he gets a champions league spot. Without a doubt.


Especially when you consider that he's managed to bring in about 40m in transfer fees.
 
Sunderland supporters compare themselves to Newcastle as would Celtic compare themselves to Rangers. The real gripe you all have against Bruce is the fact that he was a Newcastle supporter. However the rest of the football world sees you more in common with Middlesborough than Newcastle, and fully expects you to be battling near the bottom of the Premier League when you're in it, or the top half of the Championship.

Bruce is a great Manager but he can't perform miracles. You weren't a top half Premier League team when he took you over. It would seem that Sunderland is usually the place where Managers with decent reputations go to get those reputations destroyed (Martin O Neill etc).

If other supporters had a gripe with bruce because of his newcastle background then that's their reasoning. I really wanted it to work for him as he was from the local area and knew what football meant in the north east. However in interviews bruce rather pushes the newcastle background as the reasoning for his sacking to cover up the fact we didn't win for 14 matches and had the worst win percentage of any team he has managed 29.59%. By the way O'Neil 35.2% had a better win percentage in the time he had here over bruce. Currently Poyet has 42.9% win percentage far better than either so far.

i would personally compare hull to middlesbrough. similar sized club. middlesbrough overachieved with a chairman with money. we are currently 7th highest average attendance 41,240. i don't compare us to newcastle. they are where they are from a wealthy owner (john hall) who bought them in 1992 and took them into the premiership and their fan base tripled. they've still never won anything of note for over 60-70 years.
 
Larsson was class under Bruce, and suddenly stopped playing when he left.


(Worth a punt in the summer?)


Ah yes forgot Larsson, he is absolutely class.

Funnily a lot of the players that Bruce signed dropped off a bit after he left, or continued their form for the rest of the season under MON and then dropped off the following season. I think that says how much the dressing room was behind Bruce.
 
steve bruce signings for safc and played under him:

Lorik Cana- average player
Fraizer Campbell- average player/injury prone
Darren Bent- good signing but would have been for any club at the time.
Lee Cattermole- does nothing but foul
John Mensah- injury prone
Michael Turner- average player
Matthew Killgallon- poor waste of money.
Simon Mignolet- good player
Marcos Angelari- waste of money - didn't even get in the reserves
Titus Bramble- no more said
Ahmed Al Muhammadi- poor player
Cristian Riveros- poor hardly ever played
Nedum Onuoha- poor player
Danny Welbeck- loan- good player
Asamoah Gyan- good player but didn't score enough
Sulley Muntari- waste of space
Sessegnon- cracking player on his day but only turned in a 1 in four game performance. is now warming the bench at west brom
larsson - average good at set pieces.
da silva - waste of money.

alot of poor signings there and wasted money!
 
"Good signing but would have been for anyone at the time"? Er, that's how you could describe all good signings, the point is that he got the player to Sunderland, that's the crux of the 'good signing' bit.
 
"Good signing but would have been for anyone at the time"? Er, that's how you could describe all good signings, the point is that he got the player to Sunderland, that's the crux of the 'good signing' bit.

darren bent was a class striker but just couldn't get in the spurs squad. we were after him before bruce was manager. bruce was asked if we wanted to continue with pursuing him. http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/sbragia-targeted-bent-bid.42900/
 
Don't get me started on that ****er graham.

Dont't take this as me having a go as Hull FC. Im glad your doing well. I just feel the need to tell you what brucie is about.

You can have a go at any of our Rugby clubs all you want, but leave the best manager we had alone.<whistle>
 
While the OP has had a bit of a mare here the accusations on this thread of Sunderland fans arrogance just shows how little you know.
I would say we are about the least arrogant fans going, 40 years of rank mediocrity will do that to you. We know we have under performed as a club for a long long time in the main thanks to poor managers.

What some people may take as arrogance is actually just pride, pride in our history, pride in our 40,000 average gates this century while being served up dross for the main part, pride in our support which never wavers however bad it gets. No arrogance, just a knowledge that with the right man in charge we have the potential to regain our lost stature as a "big" club.

We are 6 points behind you with 2 home games coming up while you have 2 away. You have one win in eight.

Come the 29th Jan we could be level on points with you and in a cup final so hold off on your piss take just yet.