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    We would be better off staying with Avb until the end of the year then being swayed into bringing in capello or Rafa, neither are right for this club and at worst we would finish top 7 with Avb so bringing in the right man is more important then just making a change for the sake of change.
     
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  2. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Same as Rafa really OS, not top of my list but I'd have him over AVB.

    Was that a hint by the way or just a general question?

    I was starting to wonder if Capello would be a name thrown about as a potential candidate to take over should AVB be moved on, no doubt Baldini would (or has?) have put a good word in.
     
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  3. O.Spurcat

    O.Spurcat Well-Known Member

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    No, not at all, but if AVB is to depart, then it is inevitable that with Baldini at the club, Capello's name would be mentioned.
     
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    Boss Son of Pulis

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    Yes. I was thinking this the other day. Just I hope it's just that, mentioned!! Fans would be moaning about his crap football and tactics just like with Avb.
     
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    totsfan Well-Known Member

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    Klinsmann is a good shout actually,played for the club,and has had success as a manager,would he be expensive though?
     
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  6. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    <yikes> Mostly it comes down to playing style again for me. I think it's one thing showing patience with AVB over performances* as we already have him but to get another one in that puts defence first would be hard to take.

    I really, really hope we don't try and be too clever this time, if we sack AVB. It's got to be Laudrup for me, I just don't see the point in going for anyone else as he seems the ideal candidate for the role.


    *so long as he gets the results back on track.
     
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    redwhiteandermblue Well-Known Member

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    Exactly how I feel. AVB may prove to have been a mistake, but it seems to me it was a serious effort to get the right long-term manager in. Capello and Benitez seem at best short-term solutions. I'd be afraid Capello would be coming back just to have the satisfaction of ruining two of our last three seasons. Benitez too, come to think of it.

    I'd want the closest thing we can get to Bielsa. The more I think about it, the more I like a team of very talented, very young players pressing and attacking all game.

    I'm a little worried about Laudrup and Southampton's tricky-to-spell manager, though they'd be tempting, and I definitely want someone in his thirties. Have either one done more than had a team playing a little better than its talent level for a quarter or half a season?
     
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  8. Boss

    Boss Son of Pulis

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    Just took this from Wikipedia

    Capello arrived at a Real Madrid side suffering one of the
    longest spells without a trophy in their history. He quickly drew
    the disdain of Real's ardent supporters because of his defensive
    playing style. In interviews, Capello responded to those critics
    by saying that the beauty of attacking plays was old. He said
    that results were much more important than playing beautifully.
    He also added that "those days are over." His remit was to bring
    the title back to Madrid , a task that had been too much for five
    other coaches since 2003. In Spain.


    He's AVB's dad!
     
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  9. PleaseNotPoll

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    Gerrard and Lampard? Again? Really?
    Well done with Russia, though.
     
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    Laudrup would be a gamble he's obviously a great guy and has a touch of class, world class player and doing a fab job with Swansea but remember Hoddle was doing a great job with Southampton, some managers, especially great ex players are better suited to smaller clubs.
     
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  11. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    I think he judges games very well and would give us the tactical flexibility we need. I've been nothing but impressed with him so far and think he'd do great things with our squad.
     
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  12. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Completely agree.

    Laudrop and Hiddink would definitely be my standout choices and I'd be chuffed if we got one of them.

    Though I do think De Boer would also be a good fit for us, despite his lack of managerial experience.
     
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  13. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    Also I think he must be able to speak about 15 different languages by now so should be alright with getting instructions to our new players :D
     
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    As I said elsewhere, for all the success that Capello has had in Italy he doesn't receive anything more than grudging respect from the press or the fans, and the likes of Lippi and Ancelotti are certainly more loved by neutrals than he is.

    What Capello did best at Factitious is he broke up the dressing room clique - Ronaldo was loaned to Milan in the ten minutes he wasn't too fat or injured to be a viable acquisition, Roberto Carlos was told his contract wouldn't be renewed, and all of a sudden Raul stopped kicking up a fuss. Not much use for us, but would've been a good manager for Chelsea a couple of seasons back.
     
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  15. Billy The Spur

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    All this speculation about AVB and believe it or not we are 3 points better off than at the same stage last season having already played 3 of last season`s top four (two of which away from home), and are through to the knock out stages of the Europa and quarter final of the League Cup.

    I know the football has not been as good as what we have been used to (any surprise when Levy sells our best players every summer), and many players are finding their way, under performing / struggling with formations etc, but it is not all that bad when you look at the whole picture.

    We were awful against City but there was nothing wrong with the performance or effort against Newcastle, we were unlucky and ran into a goalkeeper having the best game of his career, it was a game we would have won at least 3 or 4 on another day.

    AVB needs to be given more time, unless he is losing the dressing room in which case he needs to go. The next few games will be interesting and should tell us whether the players are playing for their manager.
     
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    I'm not disputing Capello was/is one of the most respected and important managers of his era. He can point to his success as a coach and stand next to anyone. With a stool! But sure, he just isn't what this club needs.

    Although looking back in history. Santini mistake. Jol hired.

    Ramos mistake. Redknapp Hired.

    Is AVB the mistake before our next exciting manager arrives.
     
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  17. Spudulike

    Spudulike Well-Known Member

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    Probably but what you forget to include in that timeline is how our board decides to get rid of people just as things start to look good…

    Santini mistake. Jol hired. Board conspired so Jol fired.
    Ramos mistake. Redknapp Hired. Board conspired so 'Arry fired.
    Is AVB the mistake before our next exciting manager arrives…

    To be continued...
     
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  19. I cannot believe that we are having a debate about whether or not we should be happy for Benitez to join the club!

    Have you all taken leave of your senses?

    Can you truly not remember how much of a clown he became at 'Pool during his last months at that club?

    Yes, I think he probably would be a step up from AVB, but, at the moment, that really is not saying very much.
     
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  20. As has been pointed out many, many times before, Klinsmann has made it absolutely clear that he will not leave the USA. His family love it, there.
     
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