Tottenham in the Summer Transfer window - 2013 edition!

[Tottenham Jamspurs]

I think the point he was making is that shouldn't matter all that much to us, as we'd be getting the one quality striker available, who has PL experience and successful PL experience at that.


I'm surprised by the reaction to Benteke too. Every Spurs fan has been complaining about our strikers and it feels like a big chunk of those wanted us to spend big to solve it. Now there's a possibility that we are prepared to pay what it takes to get a top target he's judged to be a huge risk and overpriced. How many great seasons had Falcao had when we wanted him? How many good seasons had Rossi and Forlan had in the PL when we were after them? Etc, etc. If he'd already proven he could score 20 league goals(give or take) regularly in the PL at the age of 22 then we could forget about him because all the biggest clubs in Europe would want him, he'd cost another £10-15mill and 6 figure weekly wages.

I'm also surprised that we might be in for him, he's a pricey target, particularly after signing Paulinho. Then again I was also surprised we spent a record fee on a centre mid who's a bit similar to our other midfielders and I was also surprised that we bid so much for those to Croatian kids, especially when we wouldn't even get them for another year. It appears that we're prepared to open the cheque book though this summer. Currently we're in need of a new striker and if AVB and Levy want to make Benteke a priority signing and spend more than we would for other options then that's great. I expect him to become a very good player and I'm excited that we're trying to sign him, just as I was excited that we were after a great player like Villa.

What Yid said is pretty much what I was TRYING to say but failing miserabley.

If Benteke is our top target - and we have £25m to spend - And Levy and AVB feel he is the perfect man for the job - He is not overpriced.

If Benteke is not our top target - And we would have to risk our clubs finances to get him - and AVB and Levy feel another man is better for the job - He would be overpriced.

 

[Hoddle is a god]

What Yid said is pretty much what I was TRYING to say but failing miserabley.

If Benteke is our top target - and we have £25m to spend - And Levy and AVB feel he is the perfect man for the job - He is not overpriced.

If Benteke is not our top target - And we would have to risk our clubs finances to get him - and AVB and Levy feel another man is better for the job - He would be overpriced.

Can't argue with that.

 

[NSIS]

Can't argue with that.

I can. Benteke has yet to prove to me, and I suspect, any prospective buyers, including Spurs, that he is worth £25mil. This is about value - not how much money you've got to spend. Chavski paid £50mil for Torres - was he worth it? Of course not. And Benteke is not worth £25mil - certainly not at this time, anyway.

Benteke may be our top target. I don't know that. But, I strongly suspect that neither Levy nor AVB are prepared to risk £25mil on him.

 

[Tottenham Jamspurs]

I can. Benteke has yet to prove to me, and I suspect, any prospective buyers, including Spurs, that he is worth £25mil. This is about value - not how much money you've got to spend. Chavski paid £50mil for Torres - was he worth it? Of course not. And Benteke is not worth £25mil - certainly not at this time, anyway.

Benteke may be our top target. I don't know that. But, I strongly suspect that neither Levy nor AVB are prepared to risk £25mil on him.

You're missing my point. I'm not saying he's a £25m player. I'm not saying Levy and AVB will sign him.

What I am saying is if we sign him for £25m I will not consider him "overpriced" because the fact we have spent that shows he is one of AVB / Levy's top choices and if they are willing to spend that to get the player they consider perfect for our club and that is one of their top choices then he is not overpriced. If you can't spend £25m on your top target who can you?

Where as alot of people here are saying I hope we don't sign him for £25m

Basically - If we do sign him for £25m he must be someone AVB and Levy consider the perfect man for the job and the right sigining to take us to the next level, that alone justifies that pricetag.

 

[notsosmartspur]

On Remy, I'm with Moorpheus, I'm not sure he's all that, apart from a couple of wonder strikes, what else did he do? He did have a few good games fair enough, chipped in with a few, but was anonymous in others. I didn't watch QPR for 90 mins too often, so if I've missed something perhaps those here that must have seen him more to say he's decent could tell us, cos I definetly missed it.

tots - His attitude is IS ****, I think you may have forgot how he ended up at QPR mate, he did a bit of an Odemwingie, but with success...

"On 13 January 2013, the president of Olympique Marseille confirmed that the club had accepted a bid in the region of €10 million for Rémy from English club Newcastle United, and the player was expected to travel to Newcastle for talks but failed to turn up. Three days later, Rémy signed a four-and-a-half year contract with bottom of the league Queens Park Rangers, who paid a club record £8 million fee for the player. He was handed the number 18 shirt. The BBC Sport website reported that QPR's financial package, "understood to be more than £70,000 per week", was higher than Newcastle had offered."

 

[Hoddle is a god]

...I strongly suspect that neither Levy nor AVB are prepared to risk £25mil on him.

In which case, we won't get him, or any other decent striker.

 

[notsosmartspur]

On Remy, I'm with Moorpheus, I'm not sure he's all that, apart from a couple of wonder strikes, what else did he do? He did have a few good games fair enough, chipped in with a few, but was anonymous in others. I didn't watch QPR for 90 mins too often, so if I've missed something perhaps those here that must have seen him more to say he's decent could tell us, cos I definetly missed it.

tots - His attitude is IS ****, I think you may have forgot how he ended up at QPR mate, he did a bit of an Odemwingie, but with success...

"On 13 January 2013, the president of Olympique Marseille confirmed that the club had accepted a bid in the region of €10 million for Rémy from English club Newcastle United, and the player was expected to travel to Newcastle for talks but failed to turn up. Three days later, Rémy signed a four-and-a-half year contract with bottom of the league Queens Park Rangers, who paid a club record £8 million fee for the player. He was handed the number 18 shirt. The BBC Sport website reported that QPR's financial package, "understood to be more than £70,000 per week", was higher than Newcastle had offered."

Toon may not have been able to offer higher wages, but they can offer a higher league!


Huh! replied to my own post, didn't think that was possible, i was only editing the original!

 

[NSIS]

In which case, we won't get him, or any other decent striker.

Villa uncovered this guy, and got him for around £7mil. So, there are bargains about, you just need to find them.

 

[NSIS]

You're missing my point. I'm not saying he's a £25m player. I'm not saying Levy and AVB will sign him.

What I am saying is if we sign him for £25m I will not consider him "overpriced" because the fact we have spent that shows he is one of AVB / Levy's top choices and if they are willing to spend that to get the player they consider perfect for our club and that is one of their top choices then he is not overpriced. If you can't spend £25m on your top target who can you?

Where as alot of people here are saying I hope we don't sign him for £25m

Basically - If we do sign him for £25m he must be someone AVB and Levy consider the perfect man for the job and the right sigining to take us to the next level, that alone justifies that pricetag.

Splitting hairs! I will be truly amazed if Levy pays £25mil for Benteke. I suspect that nobody else with more brains than money will, either.

 

[Tottenham Jamspurs]

Splitting hairs! I will be truly amazed if Levy pays £25mil for Benteke. I suspect that nobody else with more brains than money will, either.

People were saying they hope we don't sign him for £25m.

I said I don't see why it matters what he costs then gave reasons.

You disagreed.

I gave you the reasons why I think what I do.

You call it splitting hairs? Don't think you understand the word "discussion".

 

[NSIS]

Splitting hairs? Really?

Why are you on a discussion board if when people discuss you call it splitting hairs?

What a ridiculous reply! In my opinion your comment was splitting hairs. You seem to disagree. That's why it's called opinions! Grow up!..

 

[NSIS]

People were saying they hope we don't sign him for £25m.

I said I don't see why it matters what he costs then gave reasons.

You disagreed.

I gave you the reasons why I think what I do.

You call it splitting hairs? Don't think you understand the word "discussion".

Yes, well phrases including the words pot & kettle immediately spring to mind!...

 

[Tottenham Jamspurs]

What a ridiculous reply! In my opinion your comment was splitting hairs. You seem to disagree. That's why it's called opinions! Grow up!..

Sorry next time you disagree with one of my posts I won't bother giving a reason as to what I said

 

[NSIS]

Sorry next time you disagree with one of my posts I won't bother giving a reason as to what I said

Like I said, grow up!..

 

[littleDinosaurLuke]

Benteke had a very good second half of the season for Villa and showed a lot of ability, but would Spurs risk paying more for him than Utd did for RvP - plus his wages etc - when he's still young and largely unproven? When you pay that kind of money you expect the finished article - like RvP.

 

[Wandering Yid]

Benteke had a very good second half of the season for Villa and showed a lot of ability, but would Spurs risk paying more for him than Utd did for RvP - plus his wages etc - when he's still young and largely unproven? When you pay that kind of money you expect the finished article - like RvP.

Hardly comparable Lidl - RVP is 30 years old, with only a few years left at the top and little resale value. He would have commanded a much larger fee if he hadn't peaked so late due to being a sicknote for most of his career.

RVP may be the finished article (despite a large goal drought this season) but he comes with a lot of baggage - age and injuries.

 

[Tottenham Jamspurs]

Benteke had a very good second half of the season for Villa and showed a lot of ability, but would Spurs risk paying more for him than Utd did for RvP - plus his wages etc - when he's still young and largely unproven? When you pay that kind of money you expect the finished article - like RvP.

I agree. But unfortunately we don't have the kind of pull United have.

We are in a position where we cant afford to try and find someone "on the cheap and hope it goes ok" but also still aren't big enough to pull players from the top European clubs.

In an ideal world would I want us to spend £25m on Benteke, no, but the fact is if we don't build on last season we will lose Bale, Lloris, Sandro and probably Vertonghen to Champion's League clubs. At the minute I can't see any better options than Benteke and if we can afford the £25m I'd rather we spend it than take a step back.

 

[littleDinosaurLuke]

I'm NOT doubting Benteke is worth signing but £25 million?

Remember Darren Bent?

Liverpool did the same with Carroll on the back of good half season.

Is it worth the gamble?

 

[Moorpheus19]

Talking of Liverpool, I read a Twitter rumour that said they've had a bid of £22m for Benteke accepted.

I can't find it now and no-one's retweeted it so it's likely BS.

We're apparently close to signing Chadli though - and then there's this Daniel Opare fella you may have seen mentioned - Ghanaian wingback capable of playing on the left or right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Opare

Wikipedia already says he plays for us

 

[redwhiteandermblue]

Great - we get a striker who has scored a couple of decent goals in the PL and showed a feckin' awful attitude and behaviour in doing so. And we lose a striker who could well have been our POTY 2011/12 and has a proven record at the highest level...... Mmmmmm, now let me think about that one......

Thanks for saying it for me, Relayer. Ade was a huge disappointment last year, and there were a number of things that would have made even a reasonable fan lose patience with him. But neither of these two things means the chances of him bouncing back and having a great year this year are negligible--though the fans being sick of him might.

In any case, making a definite move backward by getting rid of a striker who's been very successful at the top level and getting a cheap replacement is not a good idea. I'd rather take my chances on a Bentecke, who at least has scored 19 goals in the PL. As for Bale in the middle: yeah, maybe. The problem is we might be interested in repeating what worked so brilliantly the last third of last year, which was Bale with a free role in a 4-2-3-1 (with Ade as the 1...)