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James G

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The article really says nothing and has no new information however I wanted to raise it here as I think it is an interesting idea. Will there eventually be female managers at a high level in the mens game? Or will they remain a commodity of the distaff division? According to research, women should make good managers, as they have traditionally strong characteristics important to management, such as empathetic skills and behavioural interpretation.

I think we'll see women managing some day, but it's going to be some way off, with a regular female top level ref appearing first. I'm not sure there's much hope of Powell taking a Premiership job.

Thoughts?
 
saintgreg10 said:
I think it's more likely we'll see woman players incorporated into the men's game before we see woman managers.
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Why? There are physical reasons why introducing a mixed-gender team is a difficult barrier to cross, whereas there is no reason at all why women shouldn't coach, manage or referee. If there are woman who want to get involved with these roles and are well-suited to the job, bring it on, the sooner the better as far as I'm concerned. I think we could see female non-playing staff quite soon.
 
If we are talking about Hope Powell specifically then.... hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaaha!

She's her own biggest fan, that's for sure. She wouldn't get a job managing a Sunday pub team, not because of her gender, but because she's a crap manager.

Will NEVER be a woman player in professional men's football. NEVER. A 12 year old boy has more attributes to play mens professional football than a fully grown woman in her peak condition.

As for a woman manager, can't ever see it.
 
I think it could happen fairly soon in the lower divisions, and it'll just take one successful female manager to make people warm to the concept. I'm thinking something along the lines of a proven manager from women's football taking the reins of a BSP side and getting them promoted to League 2. Then there'd be a big hoopla about the Football League having its first female manager, and it'd progress from there.

It'd take a certain kind of woman to command the respect of a changing room full of macho, egotistical men, so I don't think there will ever be loads.
 
Anyway, you should all be very proud, Saints already have the first female woman football manager. Someone who buys the players and picks the team...




Nicola




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Usually when a woman succeeds in a traditionally man's field, it's because she's better. That is why I'm not surprised that the female linesman is good...if she was as good as the average man she wouldn't have got the chance. Although not all managers were previously top players, I don't see that a woman would get enough experience in order to fill the role. Much more likely to get female Chairmen. (You will notice that I didn't neutralize the job titles...never agree with that...a Chairman is the one who occupies the chair (male or female)...a chair is a piece of furniture).
 
CBK said:
Will NEVER be a woman player in professional men's football. NEVER. A 12 year old boy has more attributes to play mens professional football than a fully grown woman in her peak condition.
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This is quite a harsh statement and is verging on the Andy Gray style bigotry we're trying to eradicate from the game. If you looked a little closer, you would realise that the quality within womens football has increased tenfold over the last decade. Alright, they may not have the qualities and attributes of men in the professional game, but claiming a woman footballer at her peak is not as good as an adolescent male, is a tad ignorant in my opinion.
 
CBK said:
Anyway, you should all be very proud, Saints already have the first female woman football manager. Someone who buys the players and picks the team...




Nicola




:emoticon-0127-lipss
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Amazing that you can even twist a thread on Women managers into an anti-Nicola post. Congratulations!
 
saintgreg10 said:
This is quite a harsh statement and is verging on the Andy Gray style bigotry we're trying to eradicate from the game. If you looked a little closer, you would realise that the quality within womens football has increased tenfold over the last decade. Alright, they may not have the qualities and attributes of men in the professional game, but claiming a woman footballer at her peak is not as good as an adolescent male, is a tad ignorant in my opinion.
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.....wait until Duckhunter gets involved......
 
saintgreg10 said:
This is quite a harsh statement and is verging on the Andy Gray style bigotry we're trying to eradicate from the game. If you looked a little closer, you would realise that the quality within womens football has increased tenfold over the last decade. Alright, they may not have the qualities and attributes of men in the professional game, but claiming a woman footballer at her peak is not as good as an adolescent male, is a tad ignorant in my opinion.
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However, a man would not be allowed to compete in the womens game because of his advantages, so why should the reverse apply?

I don't think he was making a comment on technical ability, but rather physical prowess, which, generally is lesser than a male counterpart. There is a huge debate in MMA right now over a fighter called Fallon Fox, a transgender (went through a male-female sex change) fighter who currently is WRECKING fools in various distaff weight classes. The argument being made is: is this fair? Generally right now the consensus is that she should not be booked, although she is sanctioned and cleared by athletic commissions as she meets their guidelines, however her bone structure and T-levels have been examined and she does have a clear physical advantage over her competition. Now that will be further scrutinised should she ever be put against real top level female competition as, rightly, skill does beat strength most of the time.

It would have to be a very special player to be capable of succeeding in the mens game which is faster and more physical, also female players I have spoken to were always against the base idea of mixed competition as they wanted their own game to stay separate. I was always interested by that but their argument to me was that women competing in the mens game devalues their own sporting merits.
 
I think there could be some great female football managers and I think it would only help clubs to get the best managers in regardless of gender and there's no reason why female managers couldn't be successful. Plus, plenty of male managers are useless (*cough*Paul Hart*cough*) and so it'd be better to take a chance with a female manager.

As for the quality of the women's game, I've been to quite a few games being Pompey Ladies Facebook person and I've seen some great football and some corking goals (usually against us *sigh*) and one of the most entertaining games I went to was Japan Ladies v Sweden Ladies in the Olympics, lots of sweeping passing movements, brilliant defending, etc. Was good fun. Obviously physically women aren't quite so bulky as men but you even the women's game can be quite physical at times.
 
James G said:
http://t.co/0LfYfZO89p

The article really says nothing and has no new information however I wanted to raise it here as I think it is an interesting idea. Will there eventually be female managers at a high level in the mens game? Or will they remain a commodity of the distaff division? According to research, women should make good managers, as they have traditionally strong characteristics important to management, such as empathetic skills and behavioural interpretation.

I think we'll see women managing some day, but it's going to be some way off, with a regular female top level ref appearing first. I'm not sure there's much hope of Powell taking a Premiership job.

Thoughts?
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CBK said:
If we are talking about Hope Powell specifically then.... hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaaha!

She's her own biggest fan, that's for sure. She wouldn't get a job managing a Sunday pub team, not because of her gender, but because she's a crap manager.

Will NEVER be a woman player in professional men's football. NEVER. A 12 year old boy has more attributes to play mens professional football than a fully grown woman in her peak condition.

As for a woman manager, can't ever see it.
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I agree entirely with CBK's assessment of Hope Powell. She suffers from the English Disease more than most male managers and more than most youth coaches I witness at a weekend locally. There may one day be a female manager and I have no issue with that at all, but as CBK says, it won't be, can't be, shouldn't ever be considered to be Hope Powell.
 
The first thing we'll see is that girl linesman, whose name escapes me, reffing games.
 
I've never been to a game with a woman linesman but I've heard she's pretty good. With women's games, it seems to vary a lot, some games you get female officials and some games you get male.
 
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